Vascularity and hardners

milkin

Moderator

Time for a chat on hardening compounds and vascularity. Basically both results are considered to be the same but many have favored certain compounds to achieve these results. 



  • Those of you who like to throw in a hardening compound in your cycles what's your favorite and why ?

  • Those of you who have used specific compounds for vascularity, we would lalso like to hear what works best for you and why.


It appears that many folks do not understand just exactly a hardner is, and have no idea when to implement it so I thought a chat on this would help.

 

siegmund

Moderator

I never honestly used a hardener , and if I get anymore vascular , the wife problely wont go outm in  .  Public with me , my honest opion with me is I beleive its my work , im in the sun sweating my ass off , laying crete , and block etc all day ,, so I thinkn it keeps bf off and blood pumping and im always tight ,, dont knownif theres any truth in this ,, but interested to know ,, andnif im already vascular and hard woild a hardener be a waste of time for me

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

I've only used tbol for this subject. I did like the effects of tbol, but cannot compare it to anything else. D_T likes anavar and winny, so I bet he can give some good insight on those two vs each other. I am very interested in this though because I'm undecided on what to run with my next cycle which will be sust, eq, and some type of oral or orals. Kick/finish...

 
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Dont_trip

Guest

Actually my wife is the one who ran anavar and winny,and those 2 compounds really hardened her up,Anavar tightened  up her whole body.Winny is on my to do list because anavar is faked so often even though the pump my wife was getting from her anavar was making my mouth water, we are talking pumped calves from jumping jacks lol.but her's was 55 dollars for 30 10mg pills for me to run that would be very costly :(

 

Kfizzle

New member

I'm always hard haha take that however you want. Jk but really I've only ran mast and tren for hardening.  If my cycle brought this on that's what the tren as a finisher is actually for. But my experience with orals is actually very minimal believe it or not. I do want to know more about these hardeners tho.  My mind has been so set on bulk bulk bulk I just now actually started worrying about hardness with this current cycle /blast. 

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

That's me kfizzle.  Right now I'm bulk bulk bulk...

 
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Dont_trip

Guest

Just choked on a viagra.....Ive had a stiff neck for hours


*Drumroll* Please

 

kiddbiggdogg

New member

tren is def my favorite!!! i have always been very vascular and pretty cut but tren always seems to bring out the number of people that notice! masteron works pretty well for me also!

 

mdspecial

New member
he topic starter,, what is your definition on a hardening compound?

Hardening imo is normally for the last stage when you want to look good or go compete on stage ( been there, done that).
For me its
- be lean, so 6% or less
- don't use a lot of watery compounds (that make hold water)
- easy on salt etc. so have a good diet.

than I normally put in a mix or one of these compounds:

- halo,, very good for hardening, very very good,
when you have a good halo source it will even give you a hard boner
in an hour of taking in. So that's also a good hardening.
- winny, hard on joints but gets water in right places or out and hardens up
- tren is a good hardening compound but must be ace version and not used in the last final faces
must use it for couple of weeks before the final hardening stage.
- mast,, this a good 'polisher' is a must imo for competing and hardening,,,
will make you hold less water between skin and muscle, with tren and and oral very good combo
- anavar,, only in high doses (for me), not big fan of it now a days.

I can talk about he use of an diuretic, AI etc. for even hardening more up,, but these above compounds are my favorites.
 

steroids-usa

New member
I can see a lot of people saying tren is amazing, yes it's. But also very dangerous, be aware of it. So the word " best " is not in correct place. Health on first place, at least to me. In past I was kindly surprised by Boldenone, Test Propionate and Winstrol in tablet form. Pretty decent combo and one from the lighter ones.
 

mnava

New member
Halotestin just 20 mg a day in my experience is the best to harden up. And beetroot juice 30 min before a workout is absolutly out of this world for vascularity. Viens will get bigger than you ever seen. Thats the secret and you heard it here first. Dont say I never helped anyone out. They sell powder form u can mix with water. The more you take the bigger the diamater your veins will look.
 
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Dont_trip

Guest
LOL....I juice typically once a day and usually 2 beets are included amongst other things and if I drink it before my workout the pumps are insane....+1 CUZ I SAID SO LMAO
 
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