Like I've said before I'm not a competitor or even remotely close. I'm just your average middle age Joe trying not to get old and saggy. I don't lift at Gold's gym or hang out at muscle beach. . I'm from a regular town with regular people. Most guys in my gym are a little bigger or smaller than me. I went to workout at 4 today. This massive out of towner came in and I struck a conversation with him. Lol, this man was 6'4" 285lbs and sub 10 BF. 23 inch arms and a max bench of 570. Thank goodness he was a nice feller. . Just made me think about just how huge these pros must be in person.