First Cycle Advice Needed --> Add in HCG?

[jb611715]

Hi,

After 2 years of training and much deliberation, I've just started my first TRT/steroid cycle. Not sure if this is the best sub to place this on, as you could argue that it is a cycle; however, I am yet to decide whether I will cycle off, and I would like to think my doses are fairly close to TRT rather than supraphysiological.

Before my cycle my bloods look like this:



I was gutted to see my Free Test is lower than a year previous despite me supplementing with FA and TA daily whilst having a pretty nailed-on organic protein-heavy diet. I sleep well, train hard, don't drink too heavily and recover well in a sauna. My body comp is better than a year ago, but I can't help but think I could have better results on TRT, so I thought fuck it...I'm in.

May 21


Sept 22



I'm 34 years old, 65kg and train a PPL split with two rest days per 3 training days and have chosen the following cycle:

- Test E 35mg OD
- MK-677 20mg OD

Ultimately I want to gain around 10kg, but long term, I'd also like to maintain my fertility. I was going to add in HCG around the 4-8 week mark once I was stable on my test dose. However, I have no experience with HCG and would appreciate advice on dosages, as well as frequency. I'm not expecting it to make a meaningful difference to my overall test levels, but I would like to prevent testicular atrophy and maintain fertility.

Thanks
JB

 

[suppsforlife]

HCG is actually good if you notice that sperm count decreases and/or your balls are shrinking. HCG comes with its own set of side effects.
So, are you running T because of low T or for growing muscles? because your T levels do not seem low before starting the use Testosterone.

 

[jb611715]

HCG is actually good if you notice that sperm count decreases and/or your balls are shrinking. HCG comes with its own set of side effects.
So, are you running T because of low T or for growing muscles? because your T levels do not seem low before starting the use Testosterone.

I'm running T for growing. I had no symptoms of low T, but even after 7 days of pinning, I subjectively feel better.

I have noticed some testicular shrinkage but have no idea about sperm count.

I want to maintain fertility, so pretty sure I need to add in some HCG, although I don't expect it to make any difference in terms of gains.

What sides would you expect? Any idea of the dose? Presumably, it would be weight calculated?

Thanks

 

[suppsforlife]

Usually, you start with 250 IU/day x 2-3 times a week when you notice testicle shrinkage, and the last 1-2 weeks before PCT up to about 500 IU/day x 3-4 times a week.
Side effects include further suppression of HPTA, estrogen related issues, androgenic ones including others.

 

[jb611715]

Usually, you start with 250 IU/day x 2-3 times a week when you notice testicle shrinkage, and the last 1-2 weeks before PCT up to about 500 IU/day x 3-4 times a week.
Side effects include further suppression of HPTA, estrogen related issues, androgenic ones including others.

Thanks bro...Yea, testicular shrinkage is something I have noticed. Was going to pin 200 iU daily SubQ which means I'll hit 1400 iU per week which seems to be the sweet spot from what I read.