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Willbee38

New member
I'm new here, I'm from the States, I'm 38 years old, and I have been dealing with a incompetent doctor that has let me go from a 215 to a 100 in testosterone ( he told me back in 2021 all my blood work and test was normal) I'm currently in the process( December 23 of 2022) of seeing my first Endocrinologists at the #49 ranking university (blah blah). What are your thoughts on what I should be using to get started on trt. Seeing it's this low I'm sure I'm going to be on it the rest of my life. I would like good recommendations and info on what I should cycle, or is it cruise? Since I'm going to be on it the rest of my life.
 

Willbee38

New member
I'm new here, I'm from the States, I'm 38 years old, and I have been dealing with a incompetent doctor that has let me go from a 215 to a 100 in testosterone ( he told me back in 2021 all my blood work and test was normal) I'm currently in the process( December 23 of 2022) of seeing my first Endocrinologists at the #49 ranking university (blah blah). What are your thoughts on what I should be using to get started on trt. Seeing it's this low I'm sure I'm going to be on it the rest of my life. I would like good recommendations and info on what I should do.. cycle or cruise, some good souces to what I need? Since I'm going to be on it the rest of my life I figured this the best places to start.
 

GainzBandit

Well-known member
Once you start trt, it should be for the rest of your life. Not exactly something that you stop 3 or even 8 years from now. Its forever!
But trt doses vary widely depending on your goals. The main thing is making sure you're doing injections twice a week.
We've heard of people going in once a month for a trt injection 😳🤯.
But 150-250mg is pretty standard
 

Willbee38

New member
I'm new here, I'm from the States, I'm 38 years old, and I have been dealing with a incompetent doctor that has let me go from a 215 to a 100 in testosterone ( he told me back in 2021 all my blood work and test was normal) I'm currently in the process( December 23 of 2022) of seeing my first Endocrinologists at the #49 ranking university (blah blah). What are your thoughts on what I should be using to get started on trt. Seeing it's this low I'm sure I'm going to be on it the rest of my life. I would like good recommendations and info on what I should cycle, or is it cruise? Since I'm going to be on it the rest of my life.

Once you start trt, it should be for the rest of your life. Not exactly something that you stop 3 or even 8 years from now. Its forever!
But trt doses vary widely depending on your goals. The main thing is making sure you're doing injections twice a week.
We've heard of people going in once a month for a trt injection 😳🤯.
But 150-250mg is pretty standard
Ya. I my goals are I need to get my testosterone up to a normal level. 100ng, is very low and I'm not sure how and what to start. I really don't trust the medical community when it comes to this. I trusted them and they took money, didn't tell me about the low T and adviced I start taking antidepressants for the symptoms I was having.
 

GainzBandit

Well-known member
Ya. I my goals are I need to get my testosterone up to a normal level. 100ng, is very low and I'm not sure how and what to start. I really don't trust the medical community when it comes to this. I trusted them and they took money, didn't tell me about the low T and adviced I start taking antidepressants for the symptoms I was having.
I don't trust doctors either... its amazing how little they know and all they want is your money. There is a trt section here, I highly recommend reading through some posts.
But 200mg a week of test e or c should do the trick. Just split the dose up so you're doing injections twice a week. But theres members here far more knowledgeable about trt than myself.
 

Pedrito0906

Well-known member
Ya. I my goals are I need to get my testosterone up to a normal level. 100ng, is very low and I'm not sure how and what to start. I really don't trust the medical community when it comes to this. I trusted them and they took money, didn't tell me about the low T and adviced I start taking antidepressants for the symptoms I was having.
That gets me so fucking angry brother, cause for women there is everything available for free, but for men, just pay a lot and take this antidepressant, fucking clowns.

I'm 32, I was diagnosed with low T 8 months ago, I went to the Dr he started with 140mg once per week, then I decided to go on ,my own cause it was too expensive with the Dr.

If there is something I can tell you is this, you have no idea how great life becomes after getting into this, or cycles and your test are "normal" or above.

8 months ago I was so depressed, fat, with reason to live, even my girl left me. Fast forward life has never being better, I'm dating multiple women and my ex came back I pumped-n-dumper her.

The general consensus is like Bandit said. Hang in there brother, I know how you're feeling, throw away those antidepressants, post in here and life will change for the better 10 fold.

This message may sound cheesey, but when I was like that, I needed someone to tell me that there is a fucking amazing future ahead and that everything will be awesome.
 

HGH.to

Well-known member
if you're seeing your endocrinologist for the first time and you're having low T, (s)he's likely to put you on testosterone. but usually, that level of testosterone is going to be lower than what most guys here run for their goals to gain muscle and burn fat
 

Willbee38

New member
That gets me so fucking angry brother, cause for women there is everything available for free, but for men, just pay a lot and take this antidepressant, fucking clowns.

I'm 32, I was diagnosed with low T 8 months ago, I went to the Dr he started with 140mg once per week, then I decided to go on ,my own cause it was too expensive with the Dr.

If there is something I can tell you is this, you have no idea how great life becomes after getting into this, or cycles and your test are "normal" or above.

8 months ago I was so depressed, fat, with reason to live, even my girl left me. Fast forward life has never being better, I'm dating multiple women and my ex came back I pumped-n-dumper her.

The general consensus is like Bandit said. Hang in there brother, I know how you're feeling, throw away those antidepressants, post in here and life will change for the better 10 fold.

This message may sound cheesey, but when I was like that, I needed someone to tell me that there is a fucking amazing future ahead and that everything will be awesome

I was seeing this as curse, but there no a day that passes by in which I want to pin myself, cause I know how good I'm feeling, you'll feel the same.
You're right on point. Feel like I'm on a roller coaster ride thru hell. All the support around.. they are all so misinformed it's not just about ED even my doctor just tried to send me to a urologist when asked to refer me to a specialist. I been trying 3 weeks to get him to send me to an endocrinologist just to be to I have to wait till December 23. I been fighting myself for over a year and went on his word that everything (test results) was good. I lost a lot of people with my emotional ride. Family, friends, and girlfriend. I sit alone and at rock bottom. Thanks for the words of encouragement.
 

Pedrito0906

Well-known member
I sit alone and at rock bottom.
Not anymore, believe me, there no light at the end of the tunnel, its a fucking paradise.

If the Dr. doest want to do anything or if its too expensive, start yourself with trt only.

- Learn how to buy from trusted sources we have in this forum
- Learn how to inject yourself, about needles, sizes, injection sites
- Learn about different esters of Test
- Learn about what blood work you need to do and how to interpret them.

Eventually your own body will tell you if something is too much or if you need to make adjustments.

You're not alone in this, you did the first step, what awaits is the joy of enjoying life again.
 

GainzBandit

Well-known member
You would be amazed by how many members here have a very similar background. I was in a similar situation 16 months ago. Skinny, lazy, sleeping constantly, going days without food. Hated myself and my life. (I have pictures of me in the pictures section. 6ft 137lbs isn't a good look!) ended up turning a lot of that around without test-trt But this lifestyle is what changed my life. Exercise, good diet... gave me that confidence. Gave me my life back. Since I started gear, I've been considering trt just because of how amazing I feel. I feel like I'm 20 again. But I'm way too horny... like it's a real problem. My girl is being a trooper... but she's sitting on frozen peas because of it😂.

I really hope you pull the trigger and start your own trt. A vial of 300mg test e ($60-85) would last you 20 weeks. So you only need 3 to last you the year. That's pretty fucking cheap.
As for injections its really easy. I like to inject into my thighs. Mostly because I get to sit down.
 

Willbee38

New member
You would be amazed by how many members here have a very similar background. I was in a similar situation 16 months ago. Skinny, lazy, sleeping constantly, going days without food. Hated myself and my life. (I have pictures of me in the pictures section. 6ft 137lbs isn't a good look!) ended up turning a lot of that around without test-trt But this lifestyle is what changed my life. Exercise, good diet... gave me that confidence. Gave me my life back. Since I started gear, I've been considering trt just because of how amazing I feel. I feel like I'm 20 again. But I'm way too horny... like it's a real problem. My girl is being a trooper... but she's sitting on frozen peas because of it😂.

I really hope you pull the trigger and start your own trt. A vial of 300mg test e ($60-85) would last you 20 weeks. So you only need 3 to last you the year. That's pretty fucking cheap.
As for injections its really easy. I like to inject into my thighs. Mostly because I get to sit dow
 

Willbee38

New member
Where to get blood work ? I need a bit of guidance when it comes to it. Don't want to just jump into it and fuck things up. I need to get my sources, and testing done right. I don't know..it's scares me to think I got to wait many more months to get medical treatment. I don't if I can. It's a real struggle. I start now then go to the clinic and my numbers are up. They going not help. Hard situation I'm in.
 

Willbee38

New member
Where to get blood work ? I need a bit of guidance when it comes to it. Don't want to just jump into it and fuck things up. I need to get my sources, and testing done right. I don't know..it's scares me to think I got to wait many more months to get medical treatment. I don't if I can. It's a real struggle. I start now then go to the clinic and my numbers are up. They going not help. Hard situation I'm in.
I had gained almost seventy pounds this past year. I went from 210 to 275.. been a carnivore diet for almost 4 months back down to 215. I been steady walking 30 to 40 minutes a day 5 days a week at the least. Got to get the testosterone up. It's just straight will moving me right now.
 

Pedrito0906

Well-known member
Where to get blood work ? I need a bit of guidance when it comes to it. Don't want to just jump into it and fuck things up. I need to get my sources, and testing done right. I don't know..it's scares me to think I got to wait many more months to get medical treatment. I don't if I can. It's a real struggle. I start now then go to the clinic and my numbers are up. They going not help. Hard situation I'm in.
There is nothing to fuck up, testosterone won't kill you at the dosages of trt or even for the 1st cycle, I don't think it has kill anyone honestly.

Read this and others posts in this forum.

Thread 'The Basics of Ordering Bloodwork' https://musclegurus.to/forum/threads/the-basics-of-ordering-bloodwork.101634/
 

saltyscrode

Member
I am one with a similar story my friend. I'm 51, started trt at 50. I have been strength training for many years, started feeling the like an emotional little girl, and knew something was not right. But it is way too expensive for me to get treated all legit. So, I did what you are doing, a metric shit ton of research and jumped on. And yes, I am much happier. But test is not a panacea. So, continue on your research path. Learn to read blood work, diet and exercise are crucial. I run 150mg of test cyp. per week. I feel great, still strong as shit, and hold quite a bit of muscle. 5'8" 190lbs. at about 15-20% bf. I inject in my glute, feels better than the quad, but try both. It takes some time, but you will find the dose that works best for you. Merik Health is great deal for blood work. The top rated sources on here are legit and you can get good product. If/when you do get on, keep everything sterile, some times that is over looked. Welcome, keep on the board, it's a great community, Good luck mate.
 

GainzBandit

Well-known member
As you can see... lots of members here have a similar history but doing much better now. I recommend taking their advice and you're going to do way better.
we're here to help brother ;)
This, a 1000% this. If you know your low t... just start. You don't need blood work now. You need blood work 3 months from now! So honestly theres nothing stopping you from starting in... 9 days or less. UK warehouse 2, shipped to me in 8 days.
The only thing you have to worry about immediately is high est sides, but with the help of your brothers here... and some Arimidex... theres not to much to worry about.
Start with 150mg a week of test e or c. 75mg on Monday 75mg on Thursday. Within 3 weeks you'll feel much better.
Then a few months later then you need to get blood work done. See where you're at. Also the guys here can help you understand it. What's low, what's high.
Honestly the only thing stopping you is hitting that order button. Theres a lot of legitimate places to buy from. (Hint, some of them are in this very post)
Just need some bitcoin. I highly recommend using cash app. It's by far the easiest and most reliable
 

Willbee38

New member
I hit the button.. I'm stuck in between waiting till December 23 or just pinning it and not being able to go to the doctor for a script after he sees my test results again. Do I say fuck them or do I suffer longer. Crazy ass hell my testosterone is 100ng and I can't be seen till then. Tried to get a new referral to try a different specialist at a different health provider, I got in sooner October 22.. lol. Took me a week to get another referral. OSU is horrible.
 
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