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Standingup
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Im sorry noveskeet I do not agree with that info on injection depth and think shallow injections are a recipe for trouble. Its also been proven for a fact that deeper injections keep blood levels more stable with a more even release. You have to remember there is a subq layer of fat and you dont want to be anywhere near that, you want to be well in to the muscle.
So regardles of your methods to avoid pip and whether thats the cause or not , Im warning you that a 5/8 depth is not enough and not good advice to give anyone on injecting.
Have you ever bought pharma ready jects ??? They come with 22 gauge 1.5 needles
Standingup
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Noveskeete, Are you only pinning the 1 ml of test or do you have anything else in there ? A little decca smooths things out real well if you have any .
noveskeelite
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Just test and I would go natural before I poke myself with a 22G lol
Standingup
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You know its funny, to look at that damn 22 g needle you will get your self all worked up, but then its actually not all that bad. Anyway just a tiny bit of deca might help you.
Standingup
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You can use a slin pin, but its not the best way and it has to be less than a 1ml injection, guys would generally only do that for a trt situation not a cycle. Another issue that can happen is you get a ball of oil making a tight lump under your skin and it wont disperse. But Im all for experimenting and finding out what works .
noveskeelite
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we can agree to disagree on the depth guys. I have a friend who backloads into insulin syringes. furthermore I don't have any issues anymore really. This thread was made after my second injection ever. Since then ive done lots of reading and personal experimentation and have updated this to hopefully help other people who may have PIP issues.
regardless of what you think about getting deep in muscle I don't think its a contributer to PIP. Could it possibly slow absorbtion? sure.
Im also not interested in using deca.
noveskeelite
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ive only had one lump and that was in quad where I also had severe pain and swelling. and it was with a 1" needle. after about 8 days the swelling and lump finally started to go down. I was soooooo close to going to clinic
Standingup
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Wait a sec, I just noticed you said your second injection ever ? And that was on or just before march 3rd ? So thats only like 10 injections ago ? Well you'll get used to it. Hahaha by this time next year you'll be DPing yourself by jamming two 18g needles at a time in lololol
Hey wait a second are we talking about gear or porn ? LOLOL
noveskeelite
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lol I like to minimize the damage by using smallest gauge possible. after 500 injections I wont be sticking myself with 20 gauges lol fuuuucccckkkk that shiiiit
I use 5/8 only on my front delta but if you see my pics ,my delta are very well developed ,quads I wouldn't go under 1in no way ,lateral delts 1 in , and quads 1 in 1.5 in I'm alright with 1 in o pip ,but that's why everyone is different ,,and my delta get 0 pip don't get me wrong I can tell if I think about it ,that its sore for a day
I use 5/8 only on my front delta but if you see my pics ,my delta are very well developed ,quads I wouldn't go under 1in no way ,lateral delts 1 in , and glutes 1 in 1.5 in I'm alright with 1 in o pip ,but that's why everyone is different ,,and my delta get 0 pip don't get me wrong I can tell if I think about it ,that its sore for a day
noveskeelite
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</p>siegmund said:</p>
<p>I use 5/8 only on my front delta but if you see my pics ,my delta are very well developed ,quads I wouldn't go under 1in no way ,lateral delts 1 in , and quads 1 in 1.5 in I'm alright with 1 in o pip ,but that's why everyone is different ,,and my delta get 0 pip don't get me wrong I can tell if I think about it ,that its sore for a day</p>
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<p>yeah at the end of the day all that matters is your getting the oil into muscle. Only way your gonna waste your gear is injecting into vein.</p>
noveskeelite
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I can conclude this thread after today by saying PIP is location dependant and just just bodypart.
my friend injected top of quad yesterday rather than side which has both caused us major PIP.....no pain.
and me personally some injections are completely PIP free and others not so much. Just gotta find that sweet spot. PIP is rarely the gear IMO.
however if your getting bad pain every spot you inject then id diefinitely question quality of gear.