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I'll tell you from experience, I didn't start on gear until I was 44 with 21 years of lifting. At 35 years old I was stronger than I have ever been. So if your heart is telling you to hold off, hold off. I was the guy everyone "thought" was on steroids. And honestly my avatar pic is me at 43yrs...

Like Phil Heath said "I took a shot of Deca once"

Now that's my kinda thinking!!! I'm natural as a motherfucker.

Gainz is right. To even build 10# of muscle in 12 weeks is insane. Is even argue Gainz is off. I'd say lucky to get 10# muscle probably 10# fat and 30# water. Water is over 8# per gallon so distributed over a 270# giant yeah it adds up. Your arms are fucking gigantic BTW. You should be proud.

What was the dosage? I'm not big on orals but I do find 25 mg of d bol about 5 hours before I hit the weights to be productive.

Unfortunately if you live in America doctors aren't worth much unless you break a bone or need stitches. Oddly enough I've never dealt with shrinkage. But yes my understanding HCG is approved and if your doctor won't help you, try an anti aging clinic. Shit worked for Barry Bonds!

Alright, this makes sense. I generally stay away from orals anyways.....I do use proviron at 60mg per day and occasionally winstrol.....winny really gives me a kick. I wish I could run it in bigger doses for longer.

I thought anavar was liver safe but hard on the kidney's. Also under the impression proviron was liver safe. Educate me.

This is solid advise. Is this a blend? Blends are not for beginners. It takes at least a couple of years to figure doses and ratios, as well as shit your body doesn't tolerate. I tried tren once and never again.

Welcome! I'm in Florida too.

Yeah, I haven't done an "AB" workout in 20 years.

This sale is still going on?

Exactly! Gainz thinks the earth is flat! Fuck that guy. But everyone else is solid

That's not very long past expiry date.....It's not like it self destructs past a certain date. Just loss of potency is all I'd imagine. But at that I'd expect this to happen much longer down the road. It's probably as safe as it ever was.

Gainz hit it! Is it time off cause of injury/not recovering or is it mental? Getting sick from overtraining is something I've dealt with a lot. And my opinion is those who believe overtraining is just under nutrition don't work construction 40+hrs a week and still wake up at 4 to do cardio and...

Listen to these guys! The best thing I like about this forum is nobody has a "blast til you die" attitude. I've read it on so many other forums...."taking less than 1000mg test is worthless, add Halotestin, bro, if you ain't got serious sides, your not doing enough". Some forums are for guys...

Jay Cutler says he hates eating to this day.....he just forced too much food for too long.

The eating is exhausting!!! Not to mention you feel like shit eating all the time..hats off to pros and ams.

Thanks guys

My calories are 4000 to not wither away....you and I are very alike...