This will be my first cycle and looking for some feed back from you guys with experience my cycle will look like this.
week 1-8 npp 150 m,w ,f
week 1-8 sust 250 m,w,f
adex 1-8 m,th
Just wondering if this looks good or if its to much or to little.
Thanks
my age is 31,weight 215,height 6'1,bf 14%
my goals for this cycle would be gain more lean mass.
I have a few concerns , first cycles are generaly test , meaning pinning 2×week , to you get use to pinning , second what is your plan for pct ?? Third your running a 19 1st cycle , and I dont see a da (dopamine agnostic).and your ai , should be a base and adjust accordingly .. I am really not to crazy about you running this as a first cycle . But if you cant be talked out of it , I think the dosing is conservative , I like adjust your ai as needed , and I would not move forward until you did some research on a da tweek these little points a d come back with a plan . Your posting up I wonderful cycle , or I would be totaly aginst it , I really like sust and npp, its your experience and growing process im worried about here , let us know what you come up with
Is a waste of time,if your set on 8 weeks use prop.
Great cycle, but not a great first cycle. Test e or c 250mg 2 times a week. Maybe add an oral in for a kickstart.
You have virgin muscle and that sust and npp will feel like you got mule kicked.
I should add that for the last year I have been taking 100mg of test twice a week for hrt and have had great gains but I have leveled out the past four moths or so. I plan on going back on my hrt for my cruising periods. thanks for yalls input.
and not to sound stupid but what do you mean about a da? Im just wanting every thing to be right before I start. I have had my gear for a while but just waiting until I know I have all my ducks in a row.
I also have tren a but im going to wait until cycle two for that from what I have read it can be pretty harsh. thanks again for your time. and I take hcg 3x a week don't know if I should continue to use it while on cycle or wait until pst.
DA stands for Dopamine Agonist. Its for prolactin symptoms that can be caused by 19nor compounds. (Tren, deca, and npp) its usually not a problem if you keep your estro under control. The problem is you don't know if you're estrogen sensitive or not because you've never ran a cycle. That's why a test only cycle is always recommended to a beginner. These are powerful horomones that affect everyone differently. You're also gonna run 750mg test for a first cycle which is a good size dose. 500mg is standard for beginners.
If you run sust and npp and start having sides what caused it? You won't know because both these compounds are new to you. How much ai do you need to take? Running cycles is a learning process that takes patience.
That's really an intermediate to advanced cycle you are setting up. I for one do not consider sustanon to be a beginners compound. You will get everything you need at this point from test enanthate all by its self.
Agreed stand...IMO 1st cycle should always be a 12 week cycle of test e or c. I'm not opposed to certain orals being added for 6 weeks either.
Yes, people often say "test is test " and so it leads people to believe they all are as simple to use. In my experience sustanon carries a few different sides due to the mixture of esters. Ive even had a temper on sustanon, where as Cyp or Enanthate just makes me happy.
Sustanon is best kept for cycle 3,4 or more. , by then a persons got a pretty good handle on how to deal with acne, water, temper and so on.
So basically that's a big long "cruise". Time for a blast , up that dose to 300mg 2X a week even 350 . If you have the funds add in igf1LR# or HGH . The blast of test and the igf or hgh will give fantastic lean gains that will stay with you for a long time.
I appreciate all the feedback on this you all have been awesome and honest on this subject I appreciate it.
I will keep you all posted on my cycle and results.
definitely want to run a 12-14 week cycle of long ester T (cyp or enth). If youre pinning every other day, your gunna run out of spots to pin b/c you'll still be sore. If you're stuck on it, make sure you draw npp and sust together and do one hit. First cycle that works wonders (test E/dBol) 500mg/wk / 40mg/day I'm pretty sure it got of us here hooked...
Test e and dbol is a great cycle. I prefer 50mg ed. One thing to consider when drawing multiple compounds into one syringe is how many ml's total you're injecting. Muscles like the delts and pecs can't take near as much as the quads and glutes. Unless you're really big 1 to 1.5ml's is about max for the delts and pecs. Some of our bigger brothers like Mrfixit and strong can probably get away with 2ml's.
Just an update on cycle I started it 8 days ago of 750 mg a week of sust and 450 of npp m,w,f I am loading them together first pin in left quad sore as a mother went higher up on quads after that and no soreness at all I do have adex and caber on hand to take if I notice any signs. I can feel the npp working on my joints to early to tell a huge difference on the sust other than libido threw the roof. if every thing goes well I have enough gear to run for 12 weeks instead of 8. let me know if you all see any tweaking points. I have not hit glutes yet but I will.
Sust and npp both have a little bite to them. The soreness one time and not the other could have been injection technique. A heat pad comes in handy for pip
Yea probably technique first injection I was nervous as crap took about ten min to build up the courage to do it then finally did plunged got blood so had to redo it LOL. I can still feel the injection the next day but it is livable first injection I had the pimp walk going on.
Lol...that's a hell of a first injection. Same thing happened to me 2 days ago. I aspirated and got blood. Did you withdraw and change your needle? That's always a good protocol to prevent infection.
And don't worry brother...it gets easier with every pin. Before long you'll do it and not think twice about it.
yes I changed the needle i have pinned four times so far do another tomorrow but each time it does for sure get easier the first couple my mind was playing tricks on me.
We've all been there lol. You've got a good build. This cycle will do wonders for you brother.
Thanks man,thats what im hoping for.