Oral Absorption 500%

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Dont_trip

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Orals Steroids and Grapefruit Juice / it will increase their absorption

"Here's some info that many of you may or may not know or have seen posted elsewhere. Basically, if you drink 250ml of grapefruit juice with your oral medications, it will increase their absorption, blood serum concentrations, etc...There was a study done specifically with some 17A drugs, but I decided not to copy it here. The article I did copy (below) is a lot more reader-friendly and less technical. 
If you are too lazy to read the article, here's the summary: 
Drink 250ml of grapefruit juice (thats 8.4 ounces) with your oral steroids, and you just need to drink it once per day, even if you take your orals spread out throughout the day. 
I've seen studies where absorbtion of some drugs was increased by up to 500%! 
THIS APPLIES ALL ORAL MEDICATIONS/DRUGS."
http://www.musclechemistry.com/upload/anabolic-discussion-forum/47697-orals-steroids-grapefruit-juice-will-increase-their-absorption.html

James Maskalyk 
Editorial Fellow, CMAJ 

Grapefruit juice interacts with a number of medications. This unusual discovery was made serendipitously in 1989 during an experiment designed to test the effect of ethanol on a calcium-channel blocker.1 The observed response was later determined to be due to the grapefruit juice delivery vehicle rather than the alcohol. In the past decade, the list of drug interactions with grapefruit juice has expanded to include several classes of medication, precipitating a recent advisory from Health Canada.2 

The interaction: As little as 250 mL of grapefruit juice can change the metabolism of some drugs.3 This drug–food interaction occurs because of a common pathway involving a specific isoform of cytochrome P450 — CYP3A4 — present in both the liver and the intestinal wall. Studies suggest that grapefruit juice exerts its effect primarily at the level of the intestine.4 

After ingestion, a substrate contained in the grapefruit binds to the intestinal isoenzyme, impairing first-pass metabolism directly and causing a sustained decrease in CYP3A4 protein expression.5 Within 4 hours of ingestion, a reduction in the effective CYP3A4 concentration occurs, with effects lasting up to 24 hours.6 The net result is inhibition of drug metabolism in the intestine and increased oral bio availability. Because of the prolonged response, separating the intake of the drug and the juice does not prevent interference. 

Individuals express CYP3A4 in different proportions, those with the highest intestinal concentration being most susceptible to grapefruit juice–drug interactions.5 An effect is seen with the whole fruit as well as its juice, so caution should be exercised with both.7 The precise chemical compound in grapefruit that causes the interaction has not been identified. There is no similar reaction with orange juice, although there is some suspicion that "sour oranges" such as the Seville variety, may have some effect.8 A recent study, however, that tested the known interference of grapefruit juice with cyclosporine showed no similar effect with Seville oranges.9 

There is some interest in the potential therapeutic benefit of adding grapefruit juice to a drug regimen to increase oral bioavailability.3 The limitation is the individual variation in patient response. However, if the chemical that causes grapefruit's CYP3A4 inhibition is elucidated, there may be an opportunity to modulate that pathway in a controlled fashion. 

What to do: Much of the data obtained on grapefruit juice–drug interactions involved measuring serum drug concentrations in small numbers of healthy volunteers. Because of the limited data and only occasional case reports,10 it is difficult to quantify the clinical significance for individual patients. One may assume that the interaction occurs primarily with oral medicines, and only with those that share the CYP3A4 metabolism pathway, with the consequence being increased oral bioavailability, higher serum drug concentrations and associated adverse effects. 

Physicians should review medication lists often, with the goal of warning patients about adverse interactions. A list of medicines with which patients should not consume grapefruit is provided in Table 1.3,11,12 In the case of several medications that share the CYP3A4 metabolism pathway, but for which a clinical effect has not been elucidated or is theoretical, patients should be advised to consume grapefruit cautiously and be monitored for toxicity.

 

Predator

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very informative. Thank you for posting this. There was a fair amount of literature out there when creatine mono first became crazy popular in the 90s and the help of grapefruit juice in the absorption and the effects on the atp cycle.

 
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Dont_trip

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I am curios with people experience with this. I am always more curious with anecdotal experience  rather than what a study says

 

Predator

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lol. Good old Ruby. Funny thing is that I can tolerate mostly all juices except grapefruit. Just the thought makes me cringe. Ruby was the only one that I could drink sometimes without puking.

 

csancheezy

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wild days when I abused opiates and benzodiazepines we would increase the oral absorption rate by drinking specifically WHITE grapefruit juice, there is gaggles of info on the web about this type of thing, never applied it to oral AAS though it makes sense

 
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Axle

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Why does it always have to be the nasty tasting s*it that helps. lol    I have read a lot on this subject , I cant say that I am dedicated to it but have tried it more than once while taking orals.  I cant say that there was a defined difference in between drinking it and not drinking it.  My theory about it is simple - (besides you taste buds) your sure not hurting anything by drinking it so why not.  

 
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