Second cycle planning, considering Tren

[Turning 40]

Coming to the end of first cycle (Test/Dbol), need to go through PCT and then take a break but already planning for cycle 2!

 

I am hearing good things (on here, so technically reading) about TrenE. I am considering the "E" as I'm not keen on pinning ED or EOD, along with Test-C, AI and PCT

So, first of all, I'm inviting any suggestions or comments.

Second, a more general question - if you are pinning different compounds at the same time, do you mix the 2 in the syringe and pin just once - or 2 separate injections?

Cheers,

 

[Outlawthing]

You can put them in same syringe I will warn u prob gonna get scolded bout tryin to run tren from other guys on second cycle  I have never ran it but it is a very harsh compound if ur gonna take it at least start with acetate that way if sides are bad you won't be screwed maybe try  eq or deca before jumping the tren pony

 

[dolfanshan]

X2 with outlaw...if you're gonna try tren go with tren a. If the sides are too much to handle you can quickly adjust your dose or stop all together and be back to normal within days. With the e esther the half life is 9.5 days, so you're looking at a couple of weeks of suffering. What are your goals for your second cycle? 

 

[siegmund]

Turning 40 ,I dont think that you truly thought this through ,, ok I understand why you want to run tren , its the hype , and trust me all the hype , is correct , but you need to be honest with your self , you just ran a test dbol cycle ,, you crashed your estro , which comes with the game its a learning exp.  We all go through ..   so your just starting to get a feel for the compounds your running .  To run tren , you should have a better under standing of your sides , and your tells ... you already know tren is the most anabolic aas known to man... also dolp hit it right on the head ,, if you still choose to run tren , it would be very foolish to run e,, as dolp said. If you have to abort cycle , your in for a world of hurt.  . Prolactin is no joke , think crashing estro is bad ,, you dont want prolactin elevated .  I know , I been there and was running deca ,, if my wife didnt know about my aas use , and my honesty with her , she would have thought I was having a affair ,, I had 0 sex drive , and viagra couldnt get me hard , for weeks .   Its your choice ,, if you run ,,, but if you run , you MUST RUN A ,,,,   want to run tren , well pinning comes along with it ,, as outllaw suggested if you must run a 19 nor ,,i jwould suggest npp and sust.  This way you can pin 3×Week  and get use to pinning and get a feel for 19 nors , run a 8 week cycle , then consider tren a !!!  Jusf my opion ,  sieg

 

[Turning 40]

Thanks guys,

 

I'm 3 months away from starting cycle 2 - just starting to plan and do some homework. Sieg - Tren does sound very good, a lot of good hype (that's why I'm drawn to it), but guess it's only logical - the more powerful the AAS, the more powerful the effects (good and bad). Maybe put it on the back burner until I've got some more experience under my belt. Dolf - as always mass is the goal.

Thanks for your advice guys appreciated, as always.

 

[dolfanshan]

For mass I'd go with an old school favorite. Test, deca, dbol...it's an awesome mass and strength builder and will get your feet wet in terms of dealing with a 19nor. As far as pinning goes the more cycles you get under your belt the easier they get. Before you know it; you won't think twice about hanging a needle off into yourself. Maybe pin the deca in your glutes and quads and the test in your delts and pecs to kinda get a feel for it so when you do run prop and tren or npp it'll be easier on you mentally.

 

[Turning 40]

Hey Dolf,

So what would that cycle look like?  Mass is the goal, strength is secondary. Although I've only run a basic cycle, don't seem to prone to sides.

Cheers Bro,

 

[dolfanshan]

Dbol 50mg ed for 4 to 6 weeks

Week 1-16 deca 400 mg per week

Week 1-18 test e 500 to 600 mg per week

Pct or trt afterwards. Look it up theres tons of articles. It was said to be Dorian Yates favorite cycle...

 

 

[Turning 40]

Cheers Dolf, appreciated.

T40

 

[dolfanshan]

Just a quick example off the top of my head. The doses and length can be adjusted. Remember though that deca is a long slow acting ester and cycle length needs to be longer to reap the benifits.

 

[Bash]

Hey T40.. We started our cycle about the same time and like you am already considering my next cycle..  Lol.  I know me enough not to try tren yet..  Yes everyone is different..  But if the dbol made me a bit aggressive who knows what tren Wil do lol. Sounds like it was a good cycle for u as well man..  I myself will be running a cutting cycle for my next one..  Try to keep as much muscle as I can..  Theres the beast inside me that wants to keep getting bigger and run that dbol deca test cycle tho..  I hear it's a popular one

 

[dolfanshan]

Dbol does that to some. You just have to keep a conscious effort to keep your cool, and take the aggression out on the weights brother.

 

[expdom]

I get nothing from deca, My body just isn't built for it and it simply doesn't work. I"m talking about great pharma grade deca that I ran at the same time as gym partners with identical workouts as well as diet for the most part, no matter how high the dose or how long i run it, the stuff doesn't work for my body. That being said, deca can have it's share of nasty sides as well, so I usually suggest to friends that they give npp a shot first to see how their bodies react to that sort of like the tren a/e example. It also has the added benefit of working for just about everyone and working quickly and at 100mg ed  it will build monster mass eod will also yield some excellent results especially the first time running it. Now npp does work for me, it does so amazingly and puts mass on me like nothing else, especially with the right oral. what I like to run for a mass cycle is

npp

test

anadrol

proviron (i always run provi with test because it magnifies the restults)

May be a little heavy for a 2nd cycle but its what i like after years of experimenting.