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siegmund

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Weekpropnppadexcaber,will up if neededhcg
1 100mg-eod 100mg-eod .25 eod .25 2×w  
2 100mg-eod 100mg-eod .25 eod .25 2×w 250ui 2×w
3 150mg-eod 100mg-eod .25 eod .25 2×w 250ui 2×w
4 150mg-eod 100mg-eod .25 eod .25 2×w 250ui 2×w
5 150mg-eod 100mg-eod .25 eod .25 2×w 250ui 2×w
6 100mg-eod 100mg-eod .25 eod .25 2×w 250ui 2×w
7 100mg-eod   .25 eod .25 2×w 250ui 2×w
8 50mg-eod   .25eod   250ui 2×w
9 trt 200 test c      











DESCRIPTION, STATS, CONCERNS AND EXPECTATIONS: 


I'm going to call this intermediate ,, because I'm trying to hold on to my bulk, and keep clean muscle coming on ,, or should I call it bulk,,Im setting this up for like a month down the road I'm currently cruising on 200 test c w .. I'm currently 190 lb and 10% bf , give or take a pound ,,68in and 48.years young.I'm sure when I start cycle I'm going to be around 182- 185 due to losses ,, I will post current stats @start of cycle,, my concern is EOD ,pins ,, note ,,prop really don't cripple me up,,to prepare for this I've started pinning quads and front delts , which gives me a total of 8 sites do we feel this is enough?? My other concern is possibly elevated prolactin which I'm going to include caber in this cyc,, and my final concern is dosing,,I'm not a heavy Doser ,I don't believe more is better ,, I've proven to myself that diet and training provide 80% of a cycle ,, but at same time I don't want to waste gear ,,,also I've had a little shrinkage problem occuring in the morning with the boys so I'm also including hcg in this cyc ,, along with my al ,, I like adex , at .25 EOD ,, do you feel aromanson , would suit this cycle better ??? I want to keep my test running a little higher than npp ,also I'm debating do I drop my hcgnin at week 2 or 3 ,, I'm steering more towards 3 but I have it listed at week 2,,and I feel ad ex should be fine at .25 EOD if signs of bloat and acne start showing I can always bump up,, I'm pretty confident that caber should be fine at .25 2×w ,, I don't want to take chance with prolactin agion ,, so I want to run the caber through out,, I'm thinking maybe start caber week 2 ???? Or I'm fine from beginning ,also I figured I'd taper the prop,, like I said bros I been looking at this cycle for along time and researching it alot , you know another possibility is running a prop only cycle ,, and dropping dbl in at week 5 to week 8 ,, but I'm really liking the nppmy cycle history is first cycle test prop kick ,followed by test c 12 week,, cycle 2 anadrol kick 4 week test c 12 week 3rd prop and dbol kick 4week 12 week test c4th cyc was test prop 4week kick 12 week test c @week6 dropped dbol in to week 10. And this last cyc was anadrol kick start 4 week test e @500 week 18 weeks DECA @250 16 weeks and I believe I did have prolactin issues so that's why I want caber



 

milkin

Moderator

This is a great shortie Sig, on of my favorite cycles.



  1. I would keep my cruise oil in @ 1/2 of its normal dosage just to maintain that steady blood level as your find your sweet spot with the prop.!00mg/week of cruise oil ain't crap but the plan is to keep them blood levles from roller coasting all over the place.

  2. Adex or aromasin is preference, six of one half dozen of the other since they pretty much do the same thing. I find aromasin a tad bit more user friendly beacuse adex tends to break me out.

  3. EOD pokes are a mother but as long as you keep your rotation you will be fine. Also, I stick to 100mg/ml prop because it much more user friendly in the pip department. These high octane prop compounds hitting the market pack some wicked pip, something you do not want to look forward to EOD. I explain this HERE. I switched to ED pokes with the prop @ 75mg last time I ran this to pull my E2-Test ratio in due to increased acne which prooved to work well. You may be fine with EOD though so play it by ear but remember short esters= large swings in blood levels=increased acne.

  4. Caber, well that's something you will have to guage yourself and a tell tale sign of heightened prolactin is qulaity of wood. The prop will have you behaving like a porn star but if you can't chip ice with it it ain't worh taking it out. Drop your caber in as needed @ .25 e3rd. Again, there's no true protocol for this, it is user dependent. I know guys who run long deca cycles with no caber and zero prolactin sides.

  5. Heck with any orals on this one, more then enough in this cycle to yeild great results. 


Good luck with this one and keep us posted throughout your cycle once you start, many members will benifit from your feedback.


 

 

siegmund

Moderator

Much appreciated,, milk,, I'm looking forward to this one ,,I've been running it around my head for some time,,, and I thought pinning quads and front delta would be a bitch ,,but bro honestly ,,I get that burn for a few hours and over ,,a little tender next day,, and I will keep posted and once action,ty  for your input,, its appteciated

 
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