im just looking at next cycle and planning how would this look ,test cyp 500mg x2 1-16 weeks,deca 300mg x2 1-12 weeks ,aromasin id judge what days to take to find my sweet spot on the estrogen id use 12.5mg,pct 2 weeks after last test shot ,nolva 40/40/20/20,clomid 100/100/50/50,i stopped the deca as doesnt it take a month to leave system as long ester,im only planning so its not set in stone im even considering just test on its own to keep it simple ,im running test cyp now and after body had got used to it im finding it amazing,any thoughts would be great,or and as deca ruins down stairs i have not added anything just obviously the test as when estrogen under control i shouldnt have to worry i was thinking,with nice clean diet.
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- Thread starter jonathan
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dolfanshan
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Are you gonna run test at 500mg per week or 500mg twice a week for a total of 1000mg per week?
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dolfanshan
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It looks pretty good jonathan. I'd run the deca 14 weeks, and have some caber on hand just in case you get prolactin. You only need to run the test 2 weeks more than the deca.
Standingup
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Proviron right the way through and you are done. Nice and simple, love it.
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dolfanshan
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Yes provirone is great. Running it this cycle for the first time and loving it.
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dolfanshan
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Provirone will help with estro by freeing more test, but if needed you can use an ai with the provirone.
What sort of dose will i need dolf ,for the proviron as its an oral id have to take it daily ,so it works as sort of an ai then and gets the body to carry on producing test? Its mentioned some use it in pct for that purpose with nolva and clomid,as stand mentioned run for entire use of cycle,thanks gents ,great help as usual
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dolfanshan
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Stand would know about the pct part with provirone...maybe he'll chime in and explain it
Thanks seig ,seems a strange one reading around ,sides can b issue on high doses with prostate ,im looking at how much id need for cycle so putting it out there,and as i dont know hardly anything about proviron i thought only place with knowledge 2nd to none is here cheers gents
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dolfanshan
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X2 with sieg.
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dolfanshan
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If you're looking to puff up like a toad frog this cycle will do it. Dbol as a kickstart is excellent with this cycle. It's the old school body builders cycle.
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Do not use proviron in PCT . I know there is debate over that but its debate and unless you have several successful pct's under your belt I wouldnt suggest it. The idea is that proviron can actually have a supresive action because of the way your body reads the levels of free test. We could care less about that on cycle, but during p.c.t . we dont want anything getting in the way of natural test coming back.
Run proviron throughout and for most people 50mg a day is plenty. Careful of your B.P. though keep an eye on it. Use of proviron and having your A.I. dose dialed in will strongly decrease the likelyhood you will ever need the caber, but it sure is nice to have it rather than scrambling around should your wife start to complain you havent wanted to fuck her in a week, or that your nipples are bigger than hers, lol.
Im a big proponent of HCG too, especially at the end of a nandro run.
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Nandrolone is one of the more supressive compounds (if there is such a thing as more ) and running HCG towards the end of the cycle and through the two weeks in between cycle-pct will help you "hit the ground running " by jump starting the feedback loop.
People who are critics of HCG say it converts to estro. This is true but not at anywhere near a significant amount if you run reasonable doses. The other thing about HCG is if you run it a long time you can become desensitized to it. But by a long time I dont even know what that means, on a standard 5000 or 10000 iu run there wont be an issue.