Tren Appeal

T

Turning 40

Active member

This is an appeal to the experienced guys out there - Please will someone do a "beginners guide to Tren (any other 19nor)?


Tren is hugely appealing, for obvious reasons. 6 months ago I asked about incorporating it within my second cycle and was told it was a bad idea (hell I wanted to use Tren-e!). But there is so little information out there (if it is then I am missing it). Just read a similar post from Aldis with a similar response. Seig was a little blunt, and I don't blame him, this is a regular question he must be frustrated.


Could someone, if you are looking for an article topic, consider an idiots guide please?


From the little I now know, some basic questions such as:


How does a 19nor differ from other AAS's?


How much AAS experience would you recommend?


Is age a factor?


Sides to watch out for?  and fixes?


What to do if you experience Tren cough, or worse, Tren dick!


What is caber, is it always necessary or a 'just in case'?


And perhaps a sample cycle for a first timer (19nor virgin that is).


 


I know it's a big ask, so thank you in advance if anyone takes it on, it would really help educate us newbies and may cut down some of the repetitive questions.


If there is a good learning article there already please forgive me (a link would be appreciated), I was unable to find, what I have pieced together is from various threads, but by no means complete or coherent.


Thanks, T40.

 
S

siegmund

Moderator

 Well experience in my opion  should be , at least enough to know your estrogen sides when to add a ai ,when not .  I just ran a whole  tren a and prop cycle and I was lucky is I used 3 25 mg aro.. I basicly ran the cycle with out a ai... Tren don't convert .. And the low dose prop I knew I didn't need a ai. But I also know I'm not gyno prone . if a person doesn't have this figured out yet .. No tren .. Sides for me are sweats .  day and night .. Now if you eat your last big meal around 6pm (with carbs ) night sweats are not that bad. ,but a lot of carbs after 6 pm plan on changing the sheets. A few times a night ..   Bp and loss of appetite are also sides I get bp up.  But I eat like a pig on tren .. And I was cool with insomnia because I'm up every few hours all the time ...  Also your piss will smell like cat piss along with your sweat ...what is caber it is a dopamine agnostic. There is two different kinds a gyno .one from elevated e2. And one from prolactin elevation . I forget the fucking names at present. But most sware that if you keep you e2 in check prolactin will not elevate I find this to be true in most cases ...  What to do with tren dick caber.  I lived a 19 nor (DECA dick). And not fun.  I doesed my caber like .5 e6d last cycle.  Just in case , caber is very bad for the heart and a lot of other sides in its own .  is it always needed no ,but this is where experience knowing you comes in. I recommended not using unless needed .and I know if my prolactin is getting high.  ..  Also tren is the only aas  that can change you mentally .,,  for me it makes me insanely jellouse and I sware the wife is sleeping with everyone.  Which is such a fantasies.  Its not even funny but embarrassing. To say.  For me .. I get more from good dbol and sustan I'm happy.  Go lucky I trued to cover all the bases if I missed any let me know.  I ran a lot of tren.  And not worth all the hype 

 
D

Dont_trip

Guest

we all appreciate your true experience my brotha thanks for sharing!

 
S

siegmund

Moderator

Now GS gave me a lot of good pointers also. Like excessive water intake ,berries. And liver and kidney protectants.  I believe.  Go to my profile ,hit forum topics.  And you will see tren.  (I know I'm lazy and I'm on a shit phone I'm throwing away as soon as I can afford a new one ) but you will see where GS responded to me.  How to lesson the sides ... But honestly bro.  I must be honest as a member and a mod.  It did not get me no where near where I wanted to be.  I cut. I suffered.  I sweat. I was miserable.  And if your on stage. And miserable already.  Hey go for it. .  and also if you like being a prick.  Tren is for you ... If you want to be happy enjoy your cycle.  Laugh. Feel good get big.  Sust /dbol.    Sust / anavar.   Sust /npp.   Or.  Sust /npp/dbol.  I'm already bigger stronger.  LMAO.  I am. And I'm happy and people want to be around me.    But I will not knock you if you try it I had to 4 times.  And it sucks.  Honestly it sucks just my opion.   Unless you were on stage and needed it.  Brother this is only my experience with it ... And I believe tren is the only aas  that could make me loose my wife my life ,why.  Because of the way it changes my thinking.    I do not (and never would disrespect my wife ) but my fantasies thinking would make me walk away then when I woke up I would die

 
G

GS9902

New member

Another thing I learned when getting the bad mood sides from Tren is carb up! You know that feeling of just terrible irritability from the Tren killing your appetite and lack of sleep and just craziness?! I learned that a heavy day of carbs always made me feel better. A lot better. I'd still keep them limited to complex carbs but sometimes you need to cheat a little. 

 

 
S

siegmund

Moderator

Thanks again I know you gave me a whole list. The short term memory is gone   smh .. And this android I got.  Sucks I can't figure out how to copy and paste other articles.  Sometimes I get lucky.  Next week a new good phone ..I'm good for one a year.  With the concrete buss.  The phone I wanted was nice.  And like 160. But they were out so I grabbed this piece of shit for like 50$   and it calls people with out me knowing.  Like last night I told a customer after 10,months of busting balls go f his self.  Where I generally write the text get it out of my system. Then don't send    LMAO.  Well the phone sent it. . hey dude had it coming. So I didn't lie.  :)))

 
Dolf

Dolf

Moderator

Maybe we can start a 19nor thread and get some facts and experience lessons learned on it. Would probably be very helpful to a lot of brothers 

 
B

Burrr

Guest

I'm trying tren A for the first time, doing 50mg ED. 6 days in now and not much in the way of sides.

A little extra sweaty during cardio, but not too much. I noticed that the same Kcal per minute cardio (usually 12 per min) used to get me to 140 BPM and now I'm only at 130BPM.

Only had tren cough after one pin, must have nicked a vein.

Pretty weird and vivid dreams.

Zero increase in strength just yet, but I did not expect any at 6 days.

 

 

 

 
P

phoenix rising

New member

In my opinion the sides on ace are not as bad as on E and with either it's a good idea to use a 1.25 25 ga needle in the backside to avoid the dreaded Tren cough. In my opinion Crazy dreams and night sweats are pretty common on Tren but for me the Enanthate seems to produce more sides than the Acetate version even at only 100 mg daily however the gains seem best for me when I use a blend of 100mg of ace & 100 mg Enan EOD giving me vascularity, large strength increase and still able to sleep without changing sheets every 3 hours from night sweats. 

 
B

Burrr

Guest

phoenix rising said:
</p><p>I  use a blend of 100mg of ace & 100 mg Enan EOD giving me vascularity, large strength increase and still able to sleep without changing sheets every 3 hours from night sweats. </p><p>
Click to expand...
 Seems like a pretty stout dose, 700mg a week of total tren! what amount of test do you run with it?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>
 
A

Axle

Guest

I'm very new to the forums so I will start by sharing a little of my experience with this and let me know if it helps. Ill be short and sweet with this one as I would be here all day if I went into the particulars of my experience with Tren.  This is only my experience of course but IMO tren is amazing , IF you moderate.  If you do not it can turn into bad monster quick.   I read that you said that this was only your second cyle, the best advice I can give you if you haven't takin Tren before start off with Ace because If the sides get to much to handle you can stop and it will be out of your system quicker.  Bro, Tren will make you feel like the hulk but can screw you up mentally like the Joker.  It effects everyone different , mine was aggravation. If my dose was over 100Mgs EOD I would get aggravated at the grass was green.  I came to find that if I kept it at or under 100 Mgs EOD day I was at least capable of having a girlfriend to stick around.  Off the top of my head I have taken 7 cycles with tren 5 with ace and 2 with Ent.  I will not take another ENT personally because the side where much greater.  It seemed if Ent would magnify the sides.  Everyone will have different sides to any thing , but IMO when I comes to Tren ent does magnify them.  Don't be surprised if - you cant sleep, sweat like a stick pig, struggle with lung capacity while doing strenuous cardio, wild ass dreams, piss smelling like something awful and (at least for me) a dick to be very proud of.    I don't mean to harp on the sides of Tren because it awesome but do be aware that it is some strong shit.  Once again I am only giving you my opinion but I would say stick with ace, go light on the dose till you figure out "your" sides and hang on for the ride. 

 
I

I am the 1

New member

For me the mood swings was funny. I'm a pretty laid back guy. It takes a lot to piss me off. I got fighting mad on time because the hot dog to bun ration was off. I had more buns than hot dogs so I was ready to fight. Then my 3 year old knocked a hot dog out of mine and that made me ever madder. I thought about and was like am I really ready to fighter over some hot dogs and buns. I laughed it off. I had insomnia, but it wasn't that bad. I go through spells were I can't sleep so that didn't bother me. I would sweat easily and I would have weird dreams when I would sleep. I never had tren cough, deca dick, or a real problem with gyno. One issue I had in the begining was I was hardly hungry. That lasted about 2 or 3 weeks. After that my eating was fine. The only sides that stuck around the entire cycle was the sweating everything else was gone after about week 3.I didn't have any bad issues with tren, but I trust Sieg and if he say stay away from it I'm going to stay away from it. I'm not going to try tren again because just because didn't happen when I did do it doesn't mean nothing will happen next time. I did a 6 week cycle of tren ace and test p.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top