What happens when you stop trt?

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Some of you may be familiar with me talking about my coworker. He is on trt from the dr. He stopping trt for several reason.Rich Piana said no one should be on gear forever including trt, our insurance changed so now he has to pay $100 for it, and after he stopped his nuts started hurting so he went to a specialist and he told him the most he should take is 2 bottles in a row. I thought trt was for life. He stop taking his trt shots 2 weeks ago, but he still pretty strong so far.He is now only going to do 1 cycle a year. I told him his body was about to crash, but he doesn't believe me.

 
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He will crash that is for sure, the only unknown is how long he will crash for.

 Now if he got on TRT because he had low T when he was 30 then I doubt hes going to rebound very well , if he got on TRT just because he liked all the extra T that middle aged men are missing then he will probably reboot.

   If he is serious he really should be doing a PCT including a quick HCG blast.

 
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The specialist gave him a prescription for clomid. He got on trt after he turned 30. The 1st dr said he had low T. 

 
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Standingup

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The trouble is there is no solid number that I know which constitutes a hard medical definition of needing TRT.  Some Drs say 300 is low, some say that's enough.   Anyway if hes already on clomid then no need for an HCG blast. If he hadn't started yet it would be really great to do 2 nice big jolts of HCG then start in with clomid.  Nolvadex is also very smart to take and he should be taking a high dose of D Aspartic Acid (which he can buy at a vitamin shop )

   The other really really great thing he can do right now is a nice 50 day run of IGF-LR3 .  He can get that from a peptide source and have it in a few days. While his body is crashing and rebooting the IGF will keep him going a lot stronger in the gym so as not to break that routine.

 
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dolfanshan

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I'm with stand. He's about to know what a crash feels like. 

 
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Is there a certain time period you have to be on it to crash. Would you still have a crash if you cruise for 20 weeks, then blast, and then PCT? I know this is not the same for him. I think he has been on trt for around 2 years. I'm just wondering about the time frame for a true crash.

 
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dolfanshan

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I assume he's using test c, so the half life is about 8 days. It'll start at 8 days and spiral down from there. I wouldn't figure it would be as bad as crashing from a blast though.

 
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I have intentionally crashed my self.  Why ? You might ask, well I believe its something everyone should actually do who is not running cycles. Crashing teaches you a lot about how your body reacts and feels, it helps you re establish a base line which we oh so often move as time goes by. For me the very first symptom I get is brain fog around 8-10 days without an injection. I find my self thinking in  circles and unable to make decisions . Normally I access a situation and decide a course of action very quickly, without test I can not do that.  Then a few more days in I get a little lethargic and don't feel like working out or having sex, life starts to seem bland. I cant tell you any more  because Ive not gone past 15 days. After day 15 I hit my self with some aqueous and prop and Id say within a day maybe two at the most I felt sharp and keen again.

 
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dolfanshan

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You'll crash, but that's the purpose of pct to get your natural test kick started. If you were diagnosed trt though you will not naturally produce normal test levels, and may even naturally produce less test than before you started trt. The thing about trt is it's a lifetime commitment.

 
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siegmund

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×2with dolpf if he was already low t , and been cycling and trt , and now cmes off , imo , hes sex life and well being and all energy is going to be shot , THATS WHY ITS I PREACHED , MAKE SURE ONCE YOU START YOU KNOW WHAT I YOUR GETTING  INTO!!!!   HE WILL BE BACK ON TRUST ME , I KNOW I WOULD , I CANT COME OFF HOW ID BE MORE MISERABLE AND ROTTEN THAN I AM NOW ID TAKE THE 10MM AND END IT , BUTSERIOUSE HES ON FOR LIFE ANDMIT SOUNDS LIKE  he needs to get his shit together for real , talk to that boy I am 

 
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Dont_trip

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is cool but look he is also not truthful he says he cycles off but he also has said that he uses 5000ui of hcg EOD so his test levels are always super elevated so for that rich piana can eat a dick he is never off by his own words

 
Outlawthing

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I can tell u from experience I came off trt due to fertility issues and the docs were pumping clomid into me and it took bout three weeks for blood levels to come down felt like shit no nrg  the best pct will do for someone with real issues is bring there levels back to what they were before u started trt mine was 125-200 before trt  1100+ on trt back down to 200-300 on pct  if he had a legit prob it's not comin back I'm sure there are exceptions to the rules but  if he is on trt then his endo is doing regular blood work to make sure things are ok so why is he stressing  trt is a different animal than normally functioning person running a cycle of three different  compounds  maybe he is readin into things too much 

 
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swolesam

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Since Rich Piana is brought up, i personally like the dude, i think he tries to be sincere, but some of the shit he says sometimes is just laughable.

Check this funny video out, it had me in tears LOLing:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFucRPPtlts

 

 
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