Which cycle would you recommend?

[spartan0303456]

Hey guys,
I'm torn between two different options for my next cycle and would like your opinion.

Stats:
34yo, 6ft6, 104kg, 16% body fat (thanks 2020), bloods normal, done 5 cycles before

Background:
My last cycle was 8 weeks, pinning every 3 days:

• Test E - 300mg
• Test P - 100mg
• Tren Ace - 100mg

Also

• Anavar 50mg/d
• Aromasin 25mg e3d
• Cabergoline 1mg eod
• 2 week PCT after the cycle with Clomid and Nolva

I ended up with great results in terms of size, lean muscle gain, probably best results I've seen (my first time using Tren so I was hoping for a step change and got it). The problem was the sides (surprise, surprise!). It was on the week 3 my libido has disappeared completely - and I'm talking about me not even thinking porn. I just lost any interest. On the week 7/8, the shoulder acne popped up as well and got worse into the PCT. But the loss of libido stayed from week 3 for good 3 months - maybe more. I don't want to go through that again.

Now that the gyms are about to re-open, Im planning my next cycle but I'm not sure what to go for after reading lots of threads on the forum.

Option A - repeat the same cycle as above and hope the libido doesn't vanish	Option B - never had deca before but read a lot of good points on deca only cycles
10 weeks Test E - 300mg e3d Test P - 100mg e3d Tren Ace - 100mg e3d Anavar 50mg/d Aromasin 25mg e3d Cabergoline 1mg eod	10 weeks Deca Durabolin - 300mg e3d Finasteride - 1mg ed Dbol - 50mg ed (first 4 weeks)
2 week PCT after the cycle with Clomid and Nolva	2 week PCT after the cycle with Clomid and Nolva

Goal

To gain lean mass and strength, obvs.

Any advice welcome.

 

[BiggyBill]

I would go for option A simply because Deca is even more likely to kill your libido (have you heard of famous Deca side effect known as "Deca Dick"?) that's especially because you haven't added Test with Deca which is almost absolutely necessary.
Test E doesn't need to be used 3 days (2 administrations per week would be enough). on the other hand, Test P should be used daily. after all, why would you go for both? use only one (Test E for example) or Sustanon for lower injection frequency and stable blood levels.
if you have acne - add lotions or creams OTC meant to deal with acne. start with them at the beginning of cycle to PREVENT rather than TREAT acne.
in terms of ED - add some more testosterone (instead of 400 mg weekly, go to 500-600 mg weekly) this way acne is more likely to appear, but ED is less likely to appear. Or/ and you could add Cialis (Tadalafil) which is going to be great for your libido issues.
ED (libido issues) may be a result of unstable estrogen levels because of Aromasin used every 3 days, but it should be used every other day.
Tren Acetate should be used on daily basis, or at least every other day. Using it every 3 days that's resulting in highs and lows, once again.
You could try 50 mg every other day instead.
I personally am not a big fan of Cabergoline, but this is optional.
all the rest looks fine, at least to my subjective opinion. obviously (but you already know it) - diet and workout.
Anavar and Tren should be used for maximum of 8 weeks, as a recommendation.
hopefully that's going to help in any way. good luck!

 

[spartan0303456]

Thanks for the reply Bill, good stuff.

I was under the impression that Deca dick was basically ED (you can't keep an erection). That's not the same as loss of libido. When I was on the Tren cycle, I was perfectly able to have good strong erections, I simply didn't feel the urge to have sex and etc. So I could but didn't want to.

Also, after doing some research, it seems like Deca dick is only prevalent in cycles when Deca is used with Test. When used on its own (just with Finasteride), it doesn't seem to happen.

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[BiggyBill]

Very often ED and libido loss are strongly connected to each other. indeed, Deca Dick is mostly ED (inability to keep erection) but i often hear of guys losing libido either.
As I said, there's a possibility that the urge to have sex disappeared due to high and lows levels in the blood system.
indeed, Deca Dick is actually possible to happen when is used alone and when added Test - this side effect is less likely to occur. that's why most people prefer dosage ratio of Test 3 : 2 Deca. Example: 750 mg Test 500 mg Deca. Finasteride can be dangerous is not used properly, that's why i can't say I'm a big fan of it (and it can definitely kill your libido too!)
EXAMPLES:

It is theorized that nandrolone should be administered with testosterone (“stacked”) to provide DHT and prevent erectile dysfunction.

Standalone use of nandrolone comes with its very own set of nasty side-effects, the most infamous of them all is the dreaded “Deca Dick”, where the affected user is unable to get or sustain an erection.

 

[BodyGear]

first off you need to find out wht the fuck happened to your libido? you were taking Caber... Hopefullly it was not bunk! you would have to find out what your prolactin levels were... Or you could have gotten Bunk anti estro...ie Aromasin... what were your E2 levels? did you do any bloods? this is VERY important to track things down!
I would follow my bloods closely and go with option 1... if done right its a killer regimn!