Expected Results or underwhelming?

[RileyT]

Been blasting 500 test and 500 Decca weekly for the past 12 weeks and used dbol as a kick starter for the first 5. I have also been in a caloric surplus however I dont know if its just body dismorphia or I came into this blast with too high of expectations but I feel like I look the same and just gained BF. Are these the normal results on running test and Decca? (pics with phone stand is recent and the pics with the girl holding the phone are before blasting)

 

[suppsforlife]

what was your starting weight? end weight? what was the caloric surplus? you actually look big and swole. as much as I understand you don't really care about definition, you want to grow?

 

[RileyT]

what was your starting weight? end weight? what was the caloric surplus? you actually look big and swole. as much as I understand you don't really care about definition, you want to grow?

Right now im just trying to throw on a lot of mass and then im going too cut once I cruise. when I started I was 220 now im around 270, I still got a few weeks left on the blast.

 

[RileyT]

what was your starting weight? end weight? what was the caloric surplus? you actually look big and swole. as much as I understand you don't really care about definition, you want to grow?

Im also experiencing zero side effects, no gyno, no testicular atrophy, dick works like normal, no acne. I just always have that fear in the back of my head that my gear is bunk.

 

[suppsforlife]

well, you got 50 lbs, what else to ask? but if you are afraid you got bunk gear, just go with a quality source (that you can find here) and you'll have peace of mind

 

[RileyT]

well, you got 50 lbs, what else to ask? but if you are afraid you got bunk gear, just go with a quality source (that you can find here) and you'll have peace of mind

I just have never experienced the feeling of being on roids, I feel the exact same. What could I take/do to get obvious gains and blow up besides Tren (I want to stay away from that shit)?

 

[Gainz.]

Putting 50lbs on in 12 weeks... Probably 15lbs of muscle, 25lbs of fat and 10lbs of water weight. Especially having your test and Deca so close and adding dbol on top.

Most steroids don't make you "feel" different. It's not like alcohol or drugs... You don't "feel" different.
With gear it's more subtle. Changes in attitude or emotions. Dick problems.. or being rock hard all the time is a big indicator.
The only gear that really makes you "feel" different is mast... But you don't really have the body for it to be useful. It's more for aesthetics. Then of course tren... Then halo.

Putting on that much weight makes me think it's real... But again if you really want quality gear it's REALLY easy to find here.

But honestly most first timers think they have bunk gear because they don't feel any different. It's not like social media and TV says. It doesn't make you feel like the hulk and give you the warm fuzzy feeling Xanax does.

If you want to feel that magic feeling of gear...
600 test
400 tren
400 mast

That will give you that feeling... The feeling of "I can run through a brick wall and fuck the rubble"


Also... Don't do tren (it's the greatest thing in the world) it can drastically effect your relationship (by making you the fuckin man) and open your mind up to kinks you didn't know you liked (who doesn't like feet?) tren is extremely toxic (because it works and is fuckin awesome!) and definitely takes a toll. It's like having a really shitty best friend always pushing you to do bad shit (but also making you feel like a god) so... Definitely don't do tren! (Unless you want to.. you really should because it's the fuckin tits)

 

[RileyT]

Putting 50lbs on in 12 weeks... Probably 15lbs of muscle, 25lbs of fat and 10lbs of water weight. Especially having your test and Deca so close and adding dbol on top.

Most steroids don't make you "feel" different. It's not like alcohol or drugs... You don't "feel" different.
With gear it's more subtle. Changes in attitude or emotions. Dick problems.. or being rock hard all the time is a big indicator.
The only gear that really makes you "feel" different is mast... But you don't really have the body for it to be useful. It's more for aesthetics. Then of course tren... Then halo.

Putting on that much weight makes me think it's real... But again if you really want quality gear it's REALLY easy to find here.

But honestly most first timers think they have bunk gear because they don't feel any different. It's not like social media and TV says. It doesn't make you feel like the hulk and give you the warm fuzzy feeling Xanax does.

If you want to feel that magic feeling of gear...
600 test
400 tren
400 mast

That will give you that feeling... The feeling of "I can run through a brick wall and fuck the rubble"


Also... Don't do tren (it's the greatest thing in the world) it can drastically effect your relationship (by making you the fuckin man) and open your mind up to kinks you didn't know you liked (who doesn't like feet?) tren is extremely toxic (because it works and is fuckin awesome!) and definitely takes a toll. It's like having a really shitty best friend always pushing you to do bad shit (but also making you feel like a god) so... Definitely don't do tren! (Unless you want to.. you really should because it's the fuckin tits)

Ive just herd all of the bad shit tren does to your body and peoples experiences with it. What would be some quality sources for gear? I usually buy mine off of Steroid Warehouse but theres zero reviews on it across the web so I havent found anyone else whos used them to let me know if they're legit. Also I was thinking of cruising on 200 test and 100 primo after this blast/bulk to try and shed some body fat off. Any thoughts on cruising on that for about 16-20 weeks?

 

[suppsforlife]

cruising is meant to recover you from the previous cycle, not to cut. cruising should be done with Test alone (in rare and particular cases with HGH and/or Deca, unless you absolutely know what you're doing and can add other compounds like Primo). Anyway, cruising is there for health purposes, to help you recover and stay healthy. You go for Test alone and in a dosage that keeps your T levels within normal range (200 mg/week could be too much, it depends).

As forquality source for gear, closely check my name and avatar, you're going to find what you're looking for. the problem is that we can't openly advertise sources here due to this forum's rules.

 

[RileyT]

cruising is meant to recover you from the previous cycle, not to cut. cruising should be done with Test alone (in rare and particular cases with HGH and/or Deca, unless you absolutely know what you're doing and can add other compounds like Primo). Anyway, cruising is there for health purposes, to help you recover and stay healthy. You go for Test alone and in a dosage that keeps your T levels within normal range (200 mg/week could be too much, it depends).

As forquality source for gear, closely check my name and avatar, you're going to find what you're looking for. the problem is that we can't openly advertise sources here due to this forum's rules.

Im not planning on going on a drastic cut I was just gonna try to go in a slight caloric deficit to get some of the body fat off that Ive gained during this bulk. What do you recommend taking then to hold onto the muscle I've built during this bulk while shedding some body fat off? Im not trying to get stage ready or anything like that im years away from anything of the sort.

 

[RileyT]

cruising is meant to recover you from the previous cycle, not to cut. cruising should be done with Test alone (in rare and particular cases with HGH and/or Deca, unless you absolutely know what you're doing and can add other compounds like Primo). Anyway, cruising is there for health purposes, to help you recover and stay healthy. You go for Test alone and in a dosage that keeps your T levels within normal range (200 mg/week could be too much, it depends).

As forquality source for gear, closely check my name and avatar, you're going to find what you're looking for. the problem is that we can't openly advertise sources here due to this forum's rules.

And I'll check yall out!

 

[Gainz.]

Any amount of test (100-200mg per week) and a slight calorie deficit will hold on to your muscle.

 

[RileyT]

Any amount of test (100-200mg per week) and a slight calorie deficit will hold on to your muscle.

Alrighty thank you! Just curious though why shouldn't I add primo? Ive seen a lot of people talk it up on their cruising dose. And if my testicles and dick works fine I dont have to worry about running hcg right? I should just start using it when I start to notice them not working/looking normal?

 

[RileyT]

I also got this blood test done last year on just a test c cycle from everlywell and it was a finger prick. Didn’t know if it’s reliable or proves that my gear is real.

 

[suppsforlife]

Alrighty thank you! Just curious though why shouldn't I add primo?

as said earlier, you can add primo, but only if you know what you're doing, why you use it and so on. since you never cruised before, start with test alone. maybe later you'll add primo. as for answering your question, it is becuse you are meant to recover from a cycle. the more steroids (and higher doses) the less you recover from the cycle. primo is mild, but it doesn't mean that it can't have side effects or negativ effects on your health.

And if my testicles and dick works fine I dont have to worry about running hcg right?

no, if testicles are in normal size and you do not really want to have children, no need for HCG. but if you do want to have children in the future, check sperm quality/quantity every once in a while (even if testicles are normal size).
normal range 163 to 517 ng/dL? wtf? normal T levels for pussies? it is 300 (which is likely too low) up to 1000 ng/dL. your 1300 ng/dL is fine for a cycle (many try to get higher numbers particularly when bulking) but slightly too high for cruising.

 

[RileyT]

as said earlier, you can add primo, but only if you know what you're doing, why you use it and so on. since you never cruised before, start with test alone. maybe later you'll add primo. as for answering your question, it is becuse you are meant to recover from a cycle. the more steroids (and higher doses) the less you recover from the cycle. primo is mild, but it doesn't mean that it can't have side effects or negativ effects on your health.

no, if testicles are in normal size and you do not really want to have children, no need for HCG. but if you do want to have children in the future, check sperm quality/quantity every once in a while (even if testicles are normal size).
normal range 163 to 517 ng/dL? wtf? normal T levels for pussies? it is 300 (which is likely too low) up to 1000 ng/dL. your 1300 ng/dL is fine for a cycle (many try to get higher numbers particularly when bulking) but slightly too high for cruising.

So do you think my gear is real for 1300ng/dl?

 

[RileyT]

So do you think my gear is real for 1300ng/dl?

Because I have been eating 5000 calories a day on the bulk and I feel like I would of gained that weight naturally even if i wasnt blasting.

 

[Gainz.]

So do you think my gear is real for 1300ng/dl?

Yeah.. no way that's your natural test level

 

[Gainz.]

Because I have been eating 5000 calories a day on the bulk and I feel like I would of gained that weight naturally even if i wasnt blasting.

Exactly.. but it works both ways. If you're gear is real and you don't eat.. you don't gain. If it's bunk and you eat . You gain.
But if it's real and you eat you'll gain more quality size.
But I would drop down to 4,000 and higher protein. Make sure you're only putting on quality muscle

 

[RileyT]

Exactly.. but it works both ways. If you're gear is real and you don't eat.. you don't gain. If it's bunk and you eat . You gain.
But if it's real and you eat you'll gain more quality size.
But I would drop down to 4,000 and higher protein. Make sure you're only putting on quality muscle

Alrighty thank yall for the peace of mind . I have a bad tendency of psyching myself out then over-fixating on it. I basically convinced myself that my gear was bunk and I just wasted 12 weeks and was just injecting vegetable oil. I also know I eat too damn much and should cut it down when bulking. I just wanted to make sure my body had all the calories it needed on standby.