1st Cycle advice

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doug0215

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I have been researching this topic for about a year now and I would like to try a cycle to get over "the hump".  I'm posting here to get your collective wisdom.

My vitals:

6'2", 205 lbs.  44 years old, My BF is probably between 10-12%.  I have been working out for 20+ years, with the last 8 years very consistent.  I ran my blood about 6 months ago and my total T is 408, (low end of normal).  I've been working for the past year to cut BF and get lean and now want to bulk up with lean, good muscle and the least amount of fat as possible.

My current plan is to do a cycle of 500 mg/Test C or Sustanon ( haven't decided) ed x 12 weeks, Dianabol 25 mg, ed for weeks 1-6 and arimidex at .5 mg eod x 12 weeks. 

My questions are:  Does the cycle look ok for someone my age, etc.?  Do you recommend Cyp or Sustanon?

Should I do a PCT with Nolva and Clomid?  Are my Test and Arimidex dosages ok? 

Thanks for taking the time to read.

Doug

 

 
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strong

Member

It says test cyp or sust  ed for 12 weeks. im sure u mean 250mgs x2= 500 mgs. start off with cyp or enth. ...... 25 mgs of dbol in morning and 25 mgs at night. 12 hrs. apart.

 
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siegmund

Moderator

Good research , I would go with the test c , just because you only have to pin 2×week   sust would be , m, w, f    for 12 week  so go with the c , until you get use to pinning 

adex becareful ,.5 eod may be alot id go e3d at least and if your sensative bump up.

and pct ,iabsolutly , nov and clom , I at least 2 weeks after last shot .  

I usualy dont like to see a oral , but I im ok with it but ,30mg isnt enough id up to 50ed , 4 to 5 week 

good research +1  and welcome 

 

 
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doug0215

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thanks for the comments And help. I did mean 500 mgs of test. That is enough + 50 mgs of dianabol?  Also, if not an oral what do you suggest?  Deca?  Thanks again.  Much appreciated. 

 
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Standingup

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I agree that Cyp is the better of those two choices. Sustanon is actually better for someone a little more advanced due to the mixture of esters.  Sieg is correct about pinning the sust MWF too, some research will tell you sust does not need to be pinned as much but actual experience with it will show you otherwise. Sust can actually make some people edgy, where as Cyp will just make you happy. 

  I would actually suggest at your age you may want to run that adex at .5 mg ED , some people respond more than others to an AI, and I have always found I need to dose my arimidex ED.  

  You could run the D-bol but quite frankly you are going to get such a nice boost from the test why not just keep it simple, but your call on that. The d-bol will give you a bit of water retention though, I dont get the idea that you are going for the "puffy " look. 

  Since this is your first cycle blood work 6-8 weeks in is really really really something you should do, because you will find out about my statement above regarding how you respond to your A.I. 

 Nice going so far, good luck and I think you are really going to enjoy your self !!!

 
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Bash

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I ran almost the exact same cycle and got great gains from it! Went from 174lbs to 193lbs.. awesome results! I ran test e.. and 40mg of dbol as kickstarter. I started with .5mg arimidex eod.. then went to every 3rd day and then altogether dropped it in week 5 due to joint issues.. im 25 so im sure age plays a factor..

overall its a great cycle to run and make a cycle log to keep track of how your feeling on cycle portion of the page. Lots of great guys to give advice and help u out

 
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dolfanshan

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Had to give out quite a few +1 here. Lots of great advice for doug. Listen to these brothers and don't hesitate to ask any other questions you might have doug...

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

I'll add this doug. Make sure you are consuming enough calories. Gear is not magic, and food is the most anabolic substance you can take. Track your calories! Whether its by a log or a phone app, but know how many calories per day you're taking in.

 
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strong

Member

Doug, Sieg is telling you to start with 4 weeks. a lot of people will go 4 to 6 weeks. start with 4 weeks by that time your test e or test c will be in full force. im exactly your age and just started my second cycle. IMO you should only start with test e or c for 12 weeks 500 mgs a week. drop the dbol. if your gonna run dbol though definitely take 25 mg in the am and 25 mg in the pm. you need 50 mgs per  day.

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

4 to 6 weeks. My advice is 5 or 6 weeks. That way when you stop the dbol the test is kicking in nicely. I'd run the test only so you know what it feels like and then add dbol to your next cycle, but if you do add the dbol I'd go 5 weeks minimum. I love kick starting long esters with an oral and dbol is by far my favorite. It will throw 20 lbs of water weight on you rapidly and your strength will go up rapidly as well.

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

Well that's great brother, but we try and cover everything involved with having a great cycle. Its not just about the juice...

 
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RP4U

Guest

the fellas are taking care of you here... straight test is the way to go, in fact you can make great gains on Test only for several cycles to come, a lil kicker wouldn't hurt and IMO once you get some more experience with site rotation and pinning technique prop is the *ideal kicker :)) (I'm a prop fan!)

IMO dbol is the schwagg of the compound world - too much water retention and BP issues (especially for us older guys)

You may want to consider asking your Doc about TRT, we can't fight biology but we can manipulate it : P

 
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