Dieting and training while on cycle.

[Alexdb2022]

I have my cycle and pcts etc down. But here is my big questions. I'm running a test e inject and winstrol oral cycle. I do wish to shed this last stubborn fat this way while adding some muscle also. Mostly wanting to shed off the fat though tbh. I hear alot of different opinions on diet and its become overwhelming and confusing. Let me get specific examples. This many oz of meat protein in meals this many times a day. This much vegetables. Thia much brown rice or sweet potato. This is usually what my meals only consist of. How much protein carbs fat am I aiming for every how many hours in between?
As far as training. I've been natty for years and only ran a few cycles about 7 years ago tbh. I have been busting my butt for 3 months to make sure I have this dedication before jumping back on a cycle. My point is I have been doing 2x a day 4x a week workouts with it totaling 2 hours of cardio and 2 hours of lifting a day. I should be able to do 6 if not 7 days a week now that I'm on gear? I like to stick to my 2 a days as one is my serious lifting gym and the 2nd is teaching my niece to lift at a horrible commercial gym she feels comfortable at. What's that look like? In the past I've heard things like I should be able to do 2 full extra long workouts 6 or 7 times a week if I want and wont overtrain and my muscles will greatly benefit. Please help guys.

 

[EMachine]

Hey Alex,

Hope all is well! Welcome to the dance brother!

Most likely, you’re overtraining! 2 hours of cardio per day + 2 hours of lifting? And natural? You’re a beast my friend! However, you have shown dedication and persistence, which are invaluable, if you want to progress in this game. Also, helping your niece out is an honorable thing to do.

Let’s address training first. You need to be smart about training. 2 hours per day + 2 hours of cardio is overkill. Some of my clients who compete, don’t even do 3 hours of training per day and they are taking anabolics. Please reconsider your training protocol. Perhaps, you do half in the morning and half at night with your niece. Let’s say, Chest in the morning and triceps at night and cardio at night, post-workout for 45 minutes. And continue with this kind of schedule. 4 hours everyday is too much.

As far as nutrition goes, it’s hard to say because you haven’t given us any stats. Age, % of body fat, etc. what I are currently on…

Give us something to work with…

Again welcome!

 

[Alexdb2022]

Hey Alex,

Hope all is well! Welcome to the dance brother!

Most likely, you’re overtraining! 2 hours of cardio per day + 2 hours of lifting? And natural? You’re a beast my friend! However, you have shown dedication and persistence, which are invaluable, if you want to progress in this game. Also, helping your niece out is an honorable thing to do.

Let’s address training first. You need to be smart about training. 2 hours per day + 2 hours of cardio is overkill. Some of my clients who compete, don’t even do 3 hours of training per day and they are taking anabolics. Please reconsider your training protocol. Perhaps, you do half in the morning and half at night with your niece. Let’s say, Chest in the morning and triceps at night and cardio at night, post-workout for 45 minutes. And continue with this kind of schedule. 4 hours everyday is too much.

As far as nutrition goes, it’s hard to say because you haven’t given us any stats. Age, % of body fat, etc. what I are currently on…

Give us something to work with…

Again welcome!

Thanks for the welcome. Everyone here seems pretty great and I'm happy about joining the community. My age is 31. My BMI calculated at 22.2%. I'm on 500mg test e/ week and 75mg of winstrol oral daily. To clarify with the training. I was following a natural 2 a day training for 4 days a week program where you hit maybe 3 chest 2 tri in the morning and then 2 chest 2 tri at night. And 4x a week only. But what I was hoping is with the gear I could train harder and get better results that way. As for the cardio I just do an hour fasting in the morning and an hour after my workout. I really am addicted to it but I was understanding with this 4x a week plan I wouldn't be overtraining, but close. My Hope's were to be able to go even harder with the gear. But what would you reccomend.

 

[Alexdb2022]

Hey Alex,

Hope all is well! Welcome to the dance brother!

Most likely, you’re overtraining! 2 hours of cardio per day + 2 hours of lifting? And natural? You’re a beast my friend! However, you have shown dedication and persistence, which are invaluable, if you want to progress in this game. Also, helping your niece out is an honorable thing to do.

Let’s address training first. You need to be smart about training. 2 hours per day + 2 hours of cardio is overkill. Some of my clients who compete, don’t even do 3 hours of training per day and they are taking anabolics. Please reconsider your training protocol. Perhaps, you do half in the morning and half at night with your niece. Let’s say, Chest in the morning and triceps at night and cardio at night, post-workout for 45 minutes. And continue with this kind of schedule. 4 hours everyday is too much.

As far as nutrition goes, it’s hard to say because you haven’t given us any stats. Age, % of body fat, etc. what I are currently on…

Give us something to work with…

Again welcome!

Thanks for the welcome. Everyone here seems pretty great and I'm happy about joining the community. My age is 31.⁹

Hey Alex,

Hope all is well! Welcome to the dance brother!

Most likely, you’re overtraining! 2 hours of cardio per day + 2 hours of lifting? And natural? You’re a beast my friend! However, you have shown dedication and persistence, which are invaluable, if you want to progress in this game. Also, helping your niece out is an honorable thing to do.

Let’s address training first. You need to be smart about training. 2 hours per day + 2 hours of cardio is overkill. Some of my clients who compete, don’t even do 3 hours of training per day and they are taking anabolics. Please reconsider your training protocol. Perhaps, you do half in the morning and half at night with your niece. Let’s say, Chest in the morning and triceps at night and cardio at night, post-workout for 45 minutes. And continue with this kind of schedule. 4 hours everyday is too much.

As far as nutrition goes, it’s hard to say because you haven’t given us any stats. Age, % of body fat, etc. what I are currently on…

Give us something to work with…

Again welcome!

Also, I haven't ran a cycle in literally about 7 years. I been off and on natty training since then but peep.my.profile pic this is 3 months of results from this 2 a day 4x a week program I've been following. I literally started this cycle today
Not sure if it matters. My arms seem to grow fast as well as my butt but my quads will not fricken grow

 

[EMachine]

Ok...let's address gear. 75 mg of Winny is way too much...overkill! It will dry you up...certainly, but that can be achieved with 30 mg or less. Plus, your tendons will pay the price. Do you have access to Anavar? This would be a better choice - safer. I would suggest after 7 years of being clean to start with Testosterone ONLY! Winny is a powerful compound and should not be your first choice/oral here. Winny is something we used when preparing for a show...and used generally, for the last 6-8 weeks.

If you still choose to use an oral, switch from Winny to Anavar, and you can use 20 mg for 6 weeks, with minimum side effects. It is easier on your liver, as well. Your receptors are clean now and if your gear is real/legit, you don't need more than that. Test and Anavar should suffice. However, if you are going to do this, let's do it right. Also, 500 mg of testosterone is overkill. 250-300 mg is enough. If you start at 500 mg of test, where do you go from here? 600-750-1 gram? See what I mean? You want to slowly increase your dosages...and start slowl

I don't believe your diet is on point. This is something that you will have to address first, before gear or training. If you truly want results, shed some fat and stay healthy, work on your diet first.

Are you taking any sort of liver support? Are you taking Omega-3's? How far have you progressed since day one? Essentially, where did you start, 3 months ago compared to now? What is your ultimate goal? If you could have what you want today, what would it be?

What are you doing for your Quads?

 

[HGH.to]

Alex, I would really listen to emachine. although 500 mg/week of testosterone is what most beginners go to, I would still run 300mg/week just to be sure you won't get the side effects. And yeah, Winstrol is way too powerful. I would bring the doses down AND it would be better to go to Anavar which is milder. This way, you'll be safer.

 

[Alexdb2022]

Ok...let's address gear. 75 mg of Winny is way too much...overkill! It will dry you up...certainly, but that can be achieved with 30 mg or less. Plus, your tendons will pay the price. Do you have access to Anavar? This would be a better choice - safer. I would suggest after 7 years of being clean to start with Testosterone ONLY! Winny is a powerful compound and should not be your first choice/oral here. Winny is something we used when preparing for a show...and used generally, for the last 6-8 weeks.

If you still choose to use an oral, switch from Winny to Anavar, and you can use 20 mg for 6 weeks, with minimum side effects. It is easier on your liver, as well. Your receptors are clean now and if your gear is real/legit, you don't need more than that. Test and Anavar should suffice. However, if you are going to do this, let's do it right. Also, 500 mg of testosterone is overkill. 250-300 mg is enough. If you start at 500 mg of test, where do you go from here? 600-750-1 gram? See what I mean? You want to slowly increase your dosages...and start slowl

I don't believe your diet is on point. This is something that you will have to address first, before gear or training. If you truly want results, shed some fat and stay healthy, work on your diet first.

Are you taking any sort of liver support? Are you taking Omega-3's? How far have you progressed since day one? Essentially, where did you start, 3 months ago compared to now? What is your ultimate goal? If you could have what you want today, what would it be?

What are you doing for your Quads?

Thanks for the tips. Since I have only injected once, I can easily make it 300 a week. I have used this same test before at 500, but it's been a long time. It's so disappointing to hear that about the winstrol as it was something suggested and it took a while to arrive and I was excited to try and get cut faster. My goal was to bulk for a few months and now to cut for summer. My diet is pretty strict it consists of tuna salmon or chicken, brown rice or sweet potatoes and broccoli. I have protein bars, turkey sticks with light string cheese, tuna packets, protein chips from quest. I stay pretty strict to it. 3 months ago I had a little muscle but it was under alot of fat. My weight is sitting at 152 and it was 163 3 months ago. But I was very chubby, i have dropped alot of fat. I'm just not being very patient to be honest and wanted some extra kick. I'll get some anavar on the way. There is so much out there for suggestions and stuff with gear I thought I was following a common cut cycle for a beginner. I don't have anything for liver or omega threes it's something I neglected knowing I shouldn't have before starting. I'll absolutely adjust. My leg day rotation lately has really been a basic RDL back squat hip thrust leg ext leg curl and calves. But my quads have alwyas been very hard to grow even when focusing hard on them! Thanks for the help and advice it's appreciated.

 

[Alexdb2022]

Ok...let's address gear. 75 mg of Winny is way too much...overkill! It will dry you up...certainly, but that can be achieved with 30 mg or less. Plus, your tendons will pay the price. Do you have access to Anavar? This would be a better choice - safer. I would suggest after 7 years of being clean to start with Testosterone ONLY! Winny is a powerful compound and should not be your first choice/oral here. Winny is something we used when preparing for a show...and used generally, for the last 6-8 weeks.

If you still choose to use an oral, switch from Winny to Anavar, and you can use 20 mg for 6 weeks, with minimum side effects. It is easier on your liver, as well. Your receptors are clean now and if your gear is real/legit, you don't need more than that. Test and Anavar should suffice. However, if you are going to do this, let's do it right. Also, 500 mg of testosterone is overkill. 250-300 mg is enough. If you start at 500 mg of test, where do you go from here? 600-750-1 gram? See what I mean? You want to slowly increase your dosages...and start slowl

I don't believe your diet is on point. This is something that you will have to address first, before gear or training. If you truly want results, shed some fat and stay healthy, work on your diet first.

Are you taking any sort of liver support? Are you taking Omega-3's? How far have you progressed since day one? Essentially, where did you start, 3 months ago compared to now? What is your ultimate goal? If you could have what you want today, what would it be?

What are you doing for your Quads?

Also the have what I want today question is tough. I do want to get bulkier, I do have some nice gains, but right now my goal is to shed the last of this belly fat and have a 6 pack for summer, while losing minimal muscle. I used to really love test cycles because I wouldn't get big too noticeably fast like say tren probably would cause. Just not sure if I still wanna keep eating a surplus of calories or not because of the gear to cut.

 

[seymour]

Hey Alex, welcome!

The foods you mention (salmon, chicken, brown rice, tuna, sweet potatoes, brocolli) are all great stuff. I actually eat A LOT of baked chicken (very clean that way) , tuna, baked white fish, brown rice (MAKE SURE you use LONG GRAIN) , sweet potatoes, and brocolli. Another few things that are great you could add are Sprouted Oats and Spinach, blueberries, raspberries....list goes on though and is very different from person to person and personal preferences.

You didn't mention the amount of total calories you're intaking (unless I missed it) - if you're looking to cut some fat AND not lose muscle or possibly try to get slight gains you NEED to make sure that your protein count remains high (AT LEAST 1g per 1lb body weight) while getting into the calorie deficit. Doing so will help to maintain AS MUCH muscle as possible while cutting. Being on gear will certainly help with that as well.

I do see the most recent post saying possibly eating a surplus and trying to bulk a little.

You need to make up your mind whether you're going to cut or bulk. Then adjust the calorie deficit or surplus accordingly. IF you do decide to bulk then I would strongly suggest a "clean bulk" because I'm considering the fact you're going back and forth between cut and bulk in the first place.

All of the advice given concerning Winny and the dosage of Test you're using are very good advice. Winny can fuck your joints and tendons up. Especially used at higher doses and for an extended period. Using Test at a lower level ESPECIALLY after not cycling for 7 years will benefit you as well, now and in the long run.

 

[Alexdb2022]

Hey Alex, welcome!

The foods you mention (salmon, chicken, brown rice, tuna, sweet potatoes, brocolli) are all great stuff. I actually eat A LOT of baked chicken (very clean that way) , tuna, baked white fish, brown rice (MAKE SURE you use LONG GRAIN) , sweet potatoes, and brocolli. Another few things that are great you could add are Sprouted Oats and Spinach, blueberries, raspberries....list goes on though and is very different from person to person and personal preferences.

You didn't mention the amount of total calories you're intaking (unless I missed it) - if you're looking to cut some fat AND not lose muscle or possibly try to get slight gains you NEED to make sure that your protein count remains high (AT LEAST 1g per 1lb body weight) while getting into the calorie deficit. Doing so will help to maintain AS MUCH muscle as possible while cutting. Being on gear will certainly help with that as well.

I do see the most recent post saying possibly eating a surplus and trying to bulk a little.

You need to make up your mind whether you're going to cut or bulk. Then adjust the calorie deficit or surplus accordingly. IF you do decide to bulk then I would strongly suggest a "clean bulk" because I'm considering the fact you're going back and forth between cut and bulk in the first place.

All of the advice given concerning Winny and the dosage of Test you're using are very good advice. Winny can fuck your joints and tendons up. Especially used at higher doses and for an extended period. Using Test at a lower level ESPECIALLY after not cycling for 7 years will benefit you as well, now and in the long run.

Thank you. Its def a bounce back with cut and bulk especially starting the gear! But I'm trying to cut now for summer. It's a hard game to play keeping protein up and calories down and not something I have done before. Wish me the best. Very glad I joined these forums

 

[seymour]

Yeah, it's a great place. Very nice and knowledgable guys around here.

The best thing that I can suggest is to take a lot of what you see as good advice BUT then go on your own and do some research to compliment that advice. You will see that in most cases what guys are telling you is good stuff.

One of my favorite things about MG other than the fact that people are real nice is the fact that you will see health smart decisions and suggestions in a vast quantity. I've read through a lot of other forums and most of them aren't like that. Often times health is kinda on the back burner. That should NEVER be the case unless you're IFBB Pro and competing with major money on the line (EVEN then I wouldn't say fuck my health, also why I'll never compete and be a pro).

The health smart decisions can be seen right here in this thread with EMachine advising you against Winny and the possiblity of lowering the Test dosage. A lot of people don't like to hear that shit because they have their mind set on something and they are ready to roll. But, fact of the matter is you get one life and one body...treat it right. Also, in life more is NOT always better and that applies to gear as well.

The diet part of keeping protein up is hard on a cut; but, it can be done. Something I suggest that might help is when I do this I usually keep my protein at about 50% macros, 30% carbs, and 20% fats (get those good fats though).

One way I'm able to accomplish this is a lot of times my 3 main meals of the day are :

1 cup brown rice
6.5oz baked chicken

3 cups spinach
3.5oz baked chicken
1 can tuna

1 cup brown rice
2 white fish filets (roughly 8-10oz)

Those 3 main meals pack A LOT of protein and it's good clean protein. Chicken and Fish are two of the best and most lean proteins you can eat. So it's good you mentioned those already in your diet.

I also use a protein shake as part of my after dinner snack a little bit before bed.

 

[Alexdb2022]

Yeah, it's a great place. Very nice and knowledgable guys around here.

The best thing that I can suggest is to take a lot of what you see as good advice BUT then go on your own and do some research to compliment that advice. You will see that in most cases what guys are telling you is good stuff.

One of my favorite things about MG other than the fact that people are real nice is the fact that you will see health smart decisions and suggestions in a vast quantity. I've read through a lot of other forums and most of them aren't like that. Often times health is kinda on the back burner. That should NEVER be the case unless you're IFBB Pro and competing with major money on the line (EVEN then I wouldn't say fuck my health, also why I'll never compete and be a pro).

The health smart decisions can be seen right here in this thread with EMachine advising you against Winny and the possiblity of lowering the Test dosage. A lot of people don't like to hear that shit because they have their mind set on something and they are ready to roll. But, fact of the matter is you get one life and one body...treat it right. Also, in life more is NOT always better and that applies to gear as well.

The diet part of keeping protein up is hard on a cut; but, it can be done. Something I suggest that might help is when I do this I usually keep my protein at about 50% macros, 30% carbs, and 20% fats (get those good fats though).

One way I'm able to accomplish this is a lot of times my 3 main meals of the day are :

1 cup brown rice
6.5oz baked chicken

3 cups spinach
3.5oz baked chicken
1 can tuna

1 cup brown rice
2 white fish filets (roughly 8-10oz)

Those 3 main meals pack A LOT of protein and it's good clean protein. Chicken and Fish are two of the best and most lean proteins you can eat. So it's good you mentioned those already in your diet.

I also use a protein shake as part of my after dinner snack a little bit before bed.

You arent kidding. It definitely wasnt what I wanted to hear. The winny wasn't cheap! But I can easily order anavar and although I am in a hurry to cut(for what though ), it can definitely be a process and I'm okay with that. One of my common side effects is the acne from test in the past and I'm already horrible with break outs, so I dont honestly mind cutting the test down. My diet is pretty on point and I have the mental part and have literally had probably less than 5 cheat meals in the last 3 months, so I know I'll get there. My lifting addiction has once again set in, so I would really rather focus on being safe and keeping the side effects down. I'm 31 now so I feel like its something I should be more careful about moving forward. In the past, I'd have never listened to the advice. And it is crazy the advice here is different then what I've heard alot of other places, but the focus here is obviously on health, which is good. I really appreciate the meal examples so specific bro that is exactly what I was looking for. If I can just get the training part adjusted. But the truth is if anything, that's where I wont listen. I overtrain and I like it that way. In my mind i guess the gear was supposed to allow me to overtrain, while letting me recover faster and still benefit. I love to kill my body and lift and do extreme cardio. but now that I wont be eating a calorie surplus, I'd probably struggle with the 4 hour gym days anyways. Ugh so I will adjust.

 

[Alexdb2022]

Yeah, it's a great place. Very nice and knowledgable guys around here.

The best thing that I can suggest is to take a lot of what you see as good advice BUT then go on your own and do some research to compliment that advice. You will see that in most cases what guys are telling you is good stuff.

One of my favorite things about MG other than the fact that people are real nice is the fact that you will see health smart decisions and suggestions in a vast quantity. I've read through a lot of other forums and most of them aren't like that. Often times health is kinda on the back burner. That should NEVER be the case unless you're IFBB Pro and competing with major money on the line (EVEN then I wouldn't say fuck my health, also why I'll never compete and be a pro).

The health smart decisions can be seen right here in this thread with EMachine advising you against Winny and the possiblity of lowering the Test dosage. A lot of people don't like to hear that shit because they have their mind set on something and they are ready to roll. But, fact of the matter is you get one life and one body...treat it right. Also, in life more is NOT always better and that applies to gear as well.

The diet part of keeping protein up is hard on a cut; but, it can be done. Something I suggest that might help is when I do this I usually keep my protein at about 50% macros, 30% carbs, and 20% fats (get those good fats though).

One way I'm able to accomplish this is a lot of times my 3 main meals of the day are :

1 cup brown rice
6.5oz baked chicken

3 cups spinach
3.5oz baked chicken
1 can tuna

1 cup brown rice
2 white fish filets (roughly 8-10oz)

Those 3 main meals pack A LOT of protein and it's good clean protein. Chicken and Fish are two of the best and most lean proteins you can eat. So it's good you mentioned those already in your diet.

I also use a protein shake as part of my after dinner snack a little bit before bed.

How come you dont eat any vegetables in your meals? I am concerned about my fiber intake without that part.

 

[Alexdb2022]

Yeah, it's a great place. Very nice and knowledgable guys around here.

The best thing that I can suggest is to take a lot of what you see as good advice BUT then go on your own and do some research to compliment that advice. You will see that in most cases what guys are telling you is good stuff.

One of my favorite things about MG other than the fact that people are real nice is the fact that you will see health smart decisions and suggestions in a vast quantity. I've read through a lot of other forums and most of them aren't like that. Often times health is kinda on the back burner. That should NEVER be the case unless you're IFBB Pro and competing with major money on the line (EVEN then I wouldn't say fuck my health, also why I'll never compete and be a pro).

The health smart decisions can be seen right here in this thread with EMachine advising you against Winny and the possiblity of lowering the Test dosage. A lot of people don't like to hear that shit because they have their mind set on something and they are ready to roll. But, fact of the matter is you get one life and one body...treat it right. Also, in life more is NOT always better and that applies to gear as well.

The diet part of keeping protein up is hard on a cut; but, it can be done. Something I suggest that might help is when I do this I usually keep my protein at about 50% macros, 30% carbs, and 20% fats (get those good fats though).

One way I'm able to accomplish this is a lot of times my 3 main meals of the day are :

1 cup brown rice
6.5oz baked chicken

3 cups spinach
3.5oz baked chicken
1 can tuna

1 cup brown rice
2 white fish filets (roughly 8-10oz)

Those 3 main meals pack A LOT of protein and it's good clean protein. Chicken and Fish are two of the best and most lean proteins you can eat. So it's good you mentioned those already in your diet.

I also use a protein shake as part of my after dinner snack a little bit before bed.

Oh also! When you are cutting and eating those three meals...how often in between are you hitting protein bars and snacks? Like are you hitting 15-30g of protein every 3ish hours with bars and shakes? Or would you go longer periods. I'd always try to hit that amount every couple of hours and wont my body absorb more protein now on gear, or will it just process and use the same amount of protein better?

 

[Alexdb2022]

Yeah, it's a great place. Very nice and knowledgable guys around here.

The best thing that I can suggest is to take a lot of what you see as good advice BUT then go on your own and do some research to compliment that advice. You will see that in most cases what guys are telling you is good stuff.

One of my favorite things about MG other than the fact that people are real nice is the fact that you will see health smart decisions and suggestions in a vast quantity. I've read through a lot of other forums and most of them aren't like that. Often times health is kinda on the back burner. That should NEVER be the case unless you're IFBB Pro and competing with major money on the line (EVEN then I wouldn't say fuck my health, also why I'll never compete and be a pro).

The health smart decisions can be seen right here in this thread with EMachine advising you against Winny and the possiblity of lowering the Test dosage. A lot of people don't like to hear that shit because they have their mind set on something and they are ready to roll. But, fact of the matter is you get one life and one body...treat it right. Also, in life more is NOT always better and that applies to gear as well.

The diet part of keeping protein up is hard on a cut; but, it can be done. Something I suggest that might help is when I do this I usually keep my protein at about 50% macros, 30% carbs, and 20% fats (get those good fats though).

One way I'm able to accomplish this is a lot of times my 3 main meals of the day are :

1 cup brown rice
6.5oz baked chicken

3 cups spinach
3.5oz baked chicken
1 can tuna

1 cup brown rice
2 white fish filets (roughly 8-10oz)

Those 3 main meals pack A LOT of protein and it's good clean protein. Chicken and Fish are two of the best and most lean proteins you can eat. So it's good you mentioned those already in your diet.

I also use a protein shake as part of my after dinner snack a little bit before bed.

If I'm on gear now and workout once a day, shouldn't I be able to do longer sessions?

 

[seymour]

How come you dont eat any vegetables in your meals? I am concerned about my fiber intake without that part.

As far as the veggies :

-Well the spinach in 3 cups is a good amount of spinach. That spinach, baked chicken, tuna is in the form of a "salad" so to speak that's why I mentioned that.

-Also, I didn't mention the brocolli that I almost always have with dinner. Sorry, it kinda slipped my mind because I was more focused on protein aspect for you.

-Also, one of my snacks is a lot of times a sweet potato or some more brocolli. I like brocolli actually LOL.


The above 3 meals that I noted come in at roughly like 1,300 calories and 160 grams protein.

I noticed your body weight was about 150 - so that hits your 1 gram per 1lb body weight right there.

Protein between meals is going to be up to you and it's definitely good to get it. However, the amounts aren't really more dead set IMO. You just want to make sure that it's good protein AND you're hitting your protein goal for the day. Which with those 3 meals above you already are. Getting more protein is just fine AND good though. Going to help preserve that muscle on the cut.

Being on gear will definitely give you the feeling that you can workout longer and more often. But, EMachine noted this...you don't want to overtrain. Gear doesn't make you a superhuman invincible monster. Your body needs fuel, rest, and training whether you're on gear or not.

Getting your rest is crucial. Being on gear WILL help the body recover faster. However, you STILL have to give it time to recover. Over training is counter productive. I would suggest looking up some workout templates and that will give you an idea of how many different exercises to do and how many sets of those exercises to do within each workout.

Also, ALWAYS do your cardio AFTER you lift. Don't overdo cardio either, same shit as lifting.

For cutting I REALLY like High Intensity Interval Training for cardio too. (HIIT)

 

[Alexdb2022]

As far as the veggies :

-Well the spinach in 3 cups is a good amount of spinach. That spinach, baked chicken, tuna is in the form of a "salad" so to speak that's why I mentioned that.

-Also, I didn't mention the brocolli that I almost always have with dinner. Sorry, it kinda slipped my mind because I was more focused on protein aspect for you.

-Also, one of my snacks is a lot of times a sweet potato or some more brocolli. I like brocolli actually LOL.


The above 3 meals that I noted come in at roughly like 1,300 calories and 160 grams protein.

I noticed your body weight was about 150 - so that hits your 1 gram per 1lb body weight right there.

Protein between meals is going to be up to you and it's definitely good to get it. However, the amounts aren't really more dead set IMO. You just want to make sure that it's good protein AND you're hitting your protein goal for the day. Which with those 3 meals above you already are. Getting more protein is just fine AND good though. Going to help preserve that muscle on the cut.

Being on gear will definitely give you the feeling that you can workout longer and more often. But, EMachine noted this...you don't want to overtrain. Gear doesn't make you a superhuman invincible monster. Your body needs fuel, rest, and training whether you're on gear or not.

Getting your rest is crucial. Being on gear WILL help the body recover faster. However, you STILL have to give it time to recover. Over training is counter productive. I would suggest looking up some workout templates and that will give you an idea of how many different exercises to do and how many sets of those exercises to do within each workout.

Also, ALWAYS do your cardio AFTER you lift. Don't overdo cardio either, same shit as lifting.

For cutting I REALLY like High Intensity Interval Training for cardio too. (HIIT)

Thank you so much for the help I really appreciate it. There is so much different information out there and it really makes it hard for me and others I'm sure. It's a shame people are saying certain things. Years of trying to learn and you can relsly have it wrong. But switching to learning these things while on a cycle and how that potentially differs is tough. Hiit is not for me lol I've been doing the stair master or high incline walking at 3 speed tbh. I usually look up and follow plans I find online with the sets and everything. However I thought it might differ being on a cycle like I could do more. Furthermore, I had been doing fasting cardio before I eat anything in the morning to try and cut faster and then doing more post workout at night. Thoughts?

 

[EMachine]

Hey Alex,

Hope all is well!

You received first-class advice from Seymour! What separates us, here at MGs from other sites, is that we have a lot of real people here…like a family of like-minded individuais who genuinely care about their health and the health of others. You will learn very quickly who the guys are around here whom you can trust.

The idea that you must kill yourself in the gym because your using gear is not correct. You will feel stronger, more aggressive and will find yourself wanting to do more. However, this is when you must control that urge and instead of doing more exercises, use that urge and take each set to a place you’ve never been before. Mind-muscle connection is one of the most important components of growing muscle and yet, one of the most ignored.

I suspect that if you could try to feel the muscle, see in your mind the muscle growing, the fibers expanding, and learn to flex/squeeze the muscle(s) as you lift, I promise you new growth.

As far as legs are concerned, I have used this shock routine with some of my clients very successfully. Even, high level bodybuilders. Legs are always, one of the areas that are more difficult to grow and sometimes we just need to shock them.

Try this: Squats super set with Leg Curls

0. Warm-up with three sets of leg extensions and seated leg curls or standing (I prefer seated) and squeeze the muscles at the top of the movement. On the leg extensions, keep your toes pointing up and and back, all throughout the movement. Squeeze at the top of the movement for 3 seconds.

1. Squats and Leg Curls - 10 sets of 10 reps with 75% of your max.
2. Rest 90 seconds or less between supersets.

Squats: Go all the way down slowly, feeling the weight and keeping your back straight by focusing your eyes on a particular spot above your eyes line, close(r) to the ceiling. This will ensure that you keep your back straight. On the way up, explode but don’t lock your knees, you want to keep tension at all times…and slowly repeat…you might even want to place a 2x4 under your heels or a 10 lb weight…this will keep the focus on your quads.

In less than 1 month, you will see a difference!!!

This should be finished in less than 20 minutes. No time to mess around!!! Time yourself. Use your phone or a timer to time yourself and make sure that in 20 minutes you’re done. This is very important!!! Keep this workout for 6-8 weeks only! It’s intense. Each workout, CHALLENGE yourself to beat your previous time/workout. Try for 19 minute next workout…again, challenge yourself!!!

Take yourself to a place you’ve never been before…you’ll have to psyche yourself up…but it’s a good thing…even today, I psyche myself up by thinking that if I don’t make it in a certain time or lift a certain weight my kids and wife will get hurt or taken from me…this brings me to a place that failure doesn’t enter my mind…no one is going to hurt my family…NO ONE!!! See what’ve mean???

We all have different ways to psyche ourselves up…this was just an example that you can use and/or find your own.

You can follow up with 4 sets of Leg Presses and DB Romain Deadlifts where you lower your DBs all the way down and only bring them up to knee level. Check out the technique on YouTube and practice it with a lower weight first and again using the mind-muscle connection…I have to close my eyes sometimes to get there..once you fins that sweet spot, try to replicate that heavier weight…Mext workout try Hack Squats instead of Leg presses and switching you like to Barbell Romain deadlifts…if unprecedented that. I like using DBs because it’s easier for me to find the mind-muscle connection…but that’s an individual thing.

Sorry for the long reply. Glad to hear you are going to lower you dose to 300 mg ( 2 weekly shots of 150 mg) and then take 20-30 mg of Anavar…if it’s real gear, you won’t more than that. Save the Winny for a later time when you have more experience and use it towards the end of a cutting cycle.

Next time, I’ll address the need for omega-3’s when taking orals and what liver protocol you should to take. In fact, Seymour also knows the protocol and can tell you about it.

 

[EMachine]

Alex, I would really listen to emachine. although 500 mg/week of testosterone is what most beginners go to, I would still run 300mg/week just to be sure you won't get the side effects. And yeah, Winstrol is way too powerful. I would bring the doses down AND it would be better to go to Anavar which is milder. This way, you'll be safer.

Hey HGH,

Hope all is well! Do you happen to know what Anavar and Primobolan Enanthate is going for these days?

 

[HGH.to]

Hey HGH,

Hope all is well! Do you happen to know what Anavar and Primobolan Enanthate is going for these days?

as usually - more expensive than other gear. but it depends on the brand too. want to start a cycle?