Hi Frustrated (Kinda Long Post)

[thedrewman]

Hi Everybody!

What a great site with great information. I'm a little "Forum" shy, but I'm hoping to keep learning and make a few friends in the process.

I'm 50, not in great shape anymore, and quite frankly, most people couldn't take what I've been through in life and what I live with constantly. At one time when I was early 30's, I took my workouts to the stratosphere! I lived in Chicago and was working out at a very famous gym there, lifting with pro BB's and Power Lifters. I was all natural, using only legal supps (Creatine, DHEA,etc.), and  my bench went from barely able to lift 205, to 1 clean rep of 540 in a very short time. I loved the pump! I loved that feeling that nothing was too heavy! But I had no goals, no diet, so I was just a big mass! . Fast forward, I was paralyzed from the waist down in 2003. By the Grace of God, I'm able to walk and function pretty well, although I was rated 34% impaired. I've decided to take my life back, and get into the shape I was in but BETTER than when I was a D1 College Scholarship Athlete. Right off the bat though, I do have some frustrations.

I've researched and researched, and then researched more. Then I researched again. Did I mention that I did a lot of research?  I'm fairly new to AAS, although I've been on TRT before. From reading, I've learned more than my Dr., and he just doesn't get it. Anyway, I'm getting ready to start my first real cycle. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a source worth a shit! Because of low T, I've had Watson Cyp. A 1/2-3/4 cc and my balls shrunk and I was off the charts horny! Because of my condition, that was something missing in my life, and I'm trying to give my wife what she needs physically.The stuff I've bought from very reputable sites on MG and other source boards, seems to be bunk! Why? Because, I've been running a little Test to address the Low T, and see if what I bought is what they say. I don't believe its any good sadly. My balls haven't shrunk, no acne, no increase libido, bumpkis! NADA! If this was Watson Labs or Legit, I would know without doing bloodwork. If I told you how much Ive "experimented with, you'd fall off your chair!  I'm a simple guy who just wants to get legit gear from a source to address my needs. Money isn't really a factor.  I don't want to name names of where I bought my gear, but can someone please help me? PM me? Reach out to me? This is more than just being big and bragging, this is about improving my quality of life. I'm convinced that, AAS cycles, used properly with a disciplined workout routine and diet is not bad for you. I've got great workouts, a personal trainer (sport specific), diet is solid, but I can't find any legit source. Please help. Thank you for reading and helping me.

tdman

 

[Burrr]

Drew, welcome to our forum. I'm surprised to hear that you think you have purchased bunk gear from sites here on MG. I'm also on TRT and have used test from 4 different labs that have been listed here on MG. I've not encountered any bunk gear yet.

You need to do your own blood work, and see exactly what your test level is, and your estradiol level too.

Here is a thread on how to order your own blood work for cheap.

https://musclegurus.to/forum/anabolic-steroids/new-to-steroids-start-here/101634-the-basics-of-ordering-bloodwork

 

You mention that you used to be on TRT, for most guys that is a forever commitment. How long were you on TRT and when did you stop?

 

 

[JdDaniel01]

Welcome! Sounds like MG is a great place for you to be! Like Semper said, there are some GREAT scources here. Spend some time, make some friends and strike up some conversations and I am here to tell you that you will quickly see who is who and that the cream rises to the top as far as members and scources are concerned. There is no better place on the web to gain knowledge and pursue your goals. 

 

[Outlawthing]

Well one my Friend don't be scRed to ask questions  we dont bash here bro  we will get you pointed in right direction  just make sure you read the rules no source talk i. Open forums

 

[thedrewman]

Thanks Burr. Sorry I haven't replied earlier, just working and family stuff. I was on 1/2 cc every 2 weeks. I told my Dr. that is not enough, that my "number" is going to be on the higher end of normal (1000-1200). He wouldn't budge. So I asked him to give me a Rx for Arimidex to get the most out of the shot, and he completely freaked. So I figured we will raise it after a few months. Like I said, I've been though the ringer in my life. Many wonderful stories for another time. But what happened is, I fell into what they term a Major Depressive Disorder last February. My Anti D's stopped working, and I was really ready to check out. So he pulled me off the Test to make sure that wasn't causing the Depression. I got some professional help, did another Sleep Study and found out that my Sleep Apnea had gotten worse, and the level my CPAP machine was set at, wasn't working. Adjusted the Meds, raised the CPAP machine to the correct level. But my Dr. wouldn't put me back on Test. So just recently, I was showing all the classic symptoms of Low T and Low Thyroid. Blood test came back low on both (duh). He adjusted my Thyroid, but again balked at putting me back on Test. So I said "Fuck it", I'll run it myself, and that's when I started researching everything, and landed here.

 

[thedrewman]

Thank you Semper Fi. And thank you for serving our country. My best friend growing up was in the Marines for 15 years. He wanted to be a career guy, but his wife begged him to quit. Then she divorced him. He was a Sniper, and in his words, "very good at my job". But he and I reconnected and can't tell you how grateful I am to have him back in my life, and how much the Marines helped him. I've sent you a friend request, and hopefully we can chat about some things. I'm also going to post a retraction and apology soon. It's easier to do that way.

 

[thedrewman]

Thank you for your encouragement and making me feel welcome here.

 

[thedrewman]

Okay thank you. Yep, I'm here to learn first, and help when I can. I'm very guarded about sources and labs, and for me to even introduce myself is a big step. Chat soon again I hope.

 

[SemperFi]

Just something to think hard on...

You need to ensure you have your sleep apnea in check before beginning doses of testosterone. Studies have shown that test can increase the risks of sleep apnea and can worsen the condition. 

SEMPER FI

 

[thedrewman]

Thanks Semper Fi,

Yes Sir, well aware of the connection. I've had my Sleep Apnea corrected, bumped my thyroid, corrected my Anti D's,and diet is tight. I got into the gym last night. I've got a long hard road ahead of me. It will take all of my Mental and Spiritual tools to make my goals. And I realize, this may take a few YEARS. But, I've got a great attitude, new friends here, and although sore this morning from a very light workout, I feel great! BTW, I'll send you a PM when I have some time and tell you more about myself. It will help you know me better and will shed some light as to what I deal with on a daily basis.

Peace

tdman

 

[Burrr]

A good workout is great for mental health.... get that endorphin high.

Do you have a lady waiting for you when you get home? If so, send her some sext messages from the gym and follow workout with coitus.

 

[Dolf]

You need to fire that doctor!!!

 

[Toxicorangecobra]

I read through these post, and it's refreshing to see that I have some of the same issues/junk.  For years I had a primary care doc who told me at the age of 35 that a test level of 76 was ok...part of getting older.  I saw a urologist and surprise, surprise she said that, in fact that was unacceptable and of course old doc never investigated the fact that like the grinches' heart one of my boys was 3 sizes too small.  So we have me on TRT 2cc week and that's only bringing me up to 107 when they test it. Fast forward 14 years later and my new doc wants me on HGH but she wants to send me to someplace where a specialist will script it so it's covered by insurance, she says it's too cost prohibitive to self pay and it would welcome her some unwanted attention if she just starts scripting HGH because it's not her deal as a family medicine doc.  I am a former Marine rated 100% disabled by the VA, and with that comes the lovely standard of VA healthcare.  For my TRT they either want me to rub myself in goo that has to reapplied if you sweat, or it comes off (keeping in mind I have a 9 y/o son who loves to wrestle) or for me to drive there for a shot once a week, which isn't a horrible thing, but what if I need a little extra that week.  I guess I have to take the bull by the horns, and do what's best for me, I am a little concerned about getting fake HGH or bathtub made stuff, the amount I am willing to try to see if it has the effect the doc says it is, is miniscule, but yet the fear of infection, or organ failure looms large in my melon.   Any thoughts, or related Dr. Wont stories?

 

 

[Dolf]

Welcome brotha! You've recieved some excellent advice so far. Look forward to seeing you around. + 2 for the great intro

 

[Dolf]

I'm not gonna sugar coat things and say it's 100% safe because it's not. However you can get infections and abscesses from pharm grade injectables too. The top sources here take great care to be and keep everything sterile. One mess up can ruin their name, reputation, and business. It's in their best interest to keep you safe. 

 

[thedrewman]

Yeah, I know! Other than that, he's great. But I told him, as gently as possible with all due respect, that he sees 3K patients and has to know all about them, but I'm just a one person, and I've read just about everything I can get my hands on clinical, bb forums, blogs, etc. Wait until he sees my T Levels when I go back in for bloods in a couple of months after this kicks in!

 

[strong]

Welcome Drewman,  Good to have you here.

 

[Burrr]

you really should get a new Dr for TRT. He is not gonna like that you are doing your own test injections, and will probably be a dick when your bloods come back at 1000 ng/dl

 

[SemperFi]

tdman,

That post took a lot of courage and I want to welcome you to MG.

I have personally purchased from 3 well respected sources listed here on MG and I have the bloods to prove that what they are offering is legit.... in one case I can guarantee that it was dosed slightly higher than what was advertised.

I sincerely hope you find what you are looking for and I applaud your effort to take your life back!

SEMPER FI

 

[thedrewman]

Thanks everyone. Strong, nice Avatar! My brother used to have a 79 T/A. I can't see the lights very well, but it looks like it might be a '78? Anyways, he tricked it out, and it was fast as hell and oh so fun to drive