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siegmund

Moderator

Yes standing I can and will respect that , because I cannot say for 100% its e , but as a fact I can say 2 times I used 12.5 and above for the reson idk , but its the only time I been able to breath and yes its possible that maybe a little withdrawl from prov or I had 4 days of not feeling right , and it ended , but all I know for a fact is , aro , lets ne breath , a m d for record I feel better today with energy , wood appatite then in months , but yes of course I have a open mind and yes I got defensive because anytime I bring this issue up I get a fucked up response so excuse me for being very sensative with it , but I also know some howw is aas related I never had it till I started trt and aas

 

siegmund

Moderator

I know bro its just a real touchy subject for me because to a outsider and someone that never experienced it , it sounds crazy , and I really never talk about it because , I get fucked up comments , so like I said this subject hits a nerve with me , butnif me taking all the abuse and ridicule, helps others its worth it , just hope noone has to go through what I did and am going through with sinus and online 

 
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Dont_trip

Guest

Confusing this place with another place....All we got is love 4 ya siegmund you know that.=)

 

siegmund

Moderator

Not at all , dont matter where im at its a touchy subject for me , lets say plp grinded you up for 3 years , wheather your home or not home the subject gets touchy , and fucked up to talk about , because if you never experienced this , you cant understand its like having a disabilty and noone ever heard of it , and you have it dr and er and specialists say dont know , and online noone knows , this is exactly why I never bring itmup I broughtmit up 2 × in like 8 month , but thanks dt

 

Standingup

New member

Well fuck yeah dude , its exciting for all of us to get hints, discoveries and breakthroughs especially when they leave you feeling good.

 

siegmund

Moderator

Not here bro I been.on this mission along time way before mg , and I took a suit case of ridicule elsewhere , but thats why its so touchy , 

 

siegmund

Moderator

For the record , I missed a dose of aro ,, didnt take , a few of you know how to get ahold of me I cant breath and im talking with a complete stuffed up voice , so aro it seems unblocks me , now as far as other e2 signs , dont have much if any im miserable and may be due to I cant breath im going to pop now 12.5 and if I clear up by late nite or morning theres the proof of , it effecting nasal , e2 I will have to further investigate 

 

Standingup

New member

Wow crazy stuff . If I may suggest something it would be that you try to discern whether or not water retention may be stuffing up your sinuses. I wonder if the higher dose of aromasin dries you out just a bit more. You could try taking a diuretic to see if it helps at all. 

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

Wow! I learned something new and very valuable here. It definitely explains my case and why it stopped. This cycle has really been a turning point for me. I've really learned my body, the early signs it gives me, and what the problem is this particular cycle. Being proactive is so much better than reactive!  That's a big turning point for anyone because everyone is different. This is what makes MG such a valuable tool and resource. Not to mention the friendships I've gained. 

 

siegmund

Moderator

Ok I took Ro last night like planned , woke up fine , and for the record , I will try a water pill but my question is this , if it wasnt high e2 ,and after all this aro I been eating , I think I woild have signs of crashed e2.,like soreness , achy lack of motavation , loss of libido , but its the total oppositte ,, but I wl try a water pl tonight ,,


also if I may the thing that makes this interesting , is im using aro, and dolpf is using adex , zo its more than just one drug , which is steering me towards e2 ,,and bfore anyon e gets amexcited I said steering me , towards , also dolpf dont you feel that if you upped your adex and wasnt needed it would crash e2 , 


But ill be honest I llike the water pill experiment also and next time blocked , I deffently will pop one

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

Yea I upped my ai due to some signs of gyno, and it was at that time I noticed a few things. I lost some water weight and my nose got clear. After reading your well timed post and then the link that milk put up it leads me in the direction of high estrogen being the cause. After my gyno symptoms subsided I lowered my dose of adex. Sure enough my nose clogs back up and my libido crashes, so I have uped my dose of adex once again. Nose is now a little better and libido back somewhat but not strong. My biggest sign is morning wood when I wake up, but it's not the aching type wood I'd normally have on cycle.

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

I'm glad you brought this subject up because it's gonna be a very good learning tool for others to use sieg. Keep the updates coming as will I. This is one of the many things MG was designed for, and proof why if on aas you should be a member of a site like this. You not only learn from your own trial and error, but the trial and error of others.

 

siegmund

Moderator

Yes were deffently , on to something here , all we really neex to do is fine tune it , just like me brother I up my aro , I can breath , more energy , sence of well being , better wood and desire ,  im convinced its e2 ,and I will say this , the water pill does make good since.if its excess water for sinus but it wont do a world of good else where , honestly if the water pill works it confirms alot also

 
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dolfanshan

Guest

Yea the water pill could be a good compliment to an ai for this reason. I'm gonna hold off on the water pill for now and see what happens. My question is if you work out in the sun can a water pill cause cramps and dehydration? 

 

siegmund

Moderator

Just read your post agion milk , and goes to show what e2 will do , and espicially water , it effects us all differnt , it is crazy but when I start having trouble breathing , looks like im carrying to .much water , Im goingnto futher investigate this alot deeper but now there is light 

 

siegmund

Moderator

Good point bro, about the sun , I cant afford to lose water also espicially if it cramps you up ,, this all makes since to me now , when I cruise I really dont use a ai unless needed , and I cant breath now.I know why I need a ai , at least im going to try it next cruise ,, I feel like I just invented the wheel , dolp this shit is going on 3 years for me 

 

Standingup

New member

Haha well thank you for the compliment. Although seeing your link , I see I am simply following in the footsteps of better men before me. 

 

milkin

Moderator

Hell yeah bro, many do not realize the importance of E2 control. The scariest part s everyone is different !


You see many guys just run a AI protocol based on the norm or what someone else is running but the truth is only YOU can come up with a true protocol. Recognizing the signs, through sides, of high/low E2 is one of the most important things while running a cycle. Once a person learns how to listen to what their body is telling them, and elevate their sides via tuning their AI, it is then they will truly benefit form AAS usage. Otherwise, they will be chasing their tail as their levels roller coaster through their cycle., 

 

Standingup

New member

Heres the deal with Aromasin and Arimidex . Ultimately you have to find which one is right for you, but as a general rule I prefer Arimidex largely due to my age.  We know we want to control estrogen but that does not mean obliterate it. Low estrogen causes a whole host of issues often the same as high estro. In any case we know Aromasin binds to that estro and kills it forever, so there in lies the risk. If you take too much Asin you will have a hard time bouncing back, if you take Adex and go too far a few days off and your estro will start to come back.


  You guys may have heard me say I like to run HCG and I do, but for the older guy running Aromasin as his AI ,Id say its a must to have on hand. Should you find your self with crashed estro a few very high doses of HCG may be one of the only things you can do to speed up the recovery of estro.


  So Seig just be careful thats all. Low or crashed estro is no fun either, which is why Ive said all along to simply approach with caution and not jump too fast to conclusions.  If your problem is indeed a matter of water control and you fix it by smashing estro you will end up trading one set of troubles for a nother.

 
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