By far , my least favorite !!!! Havnt done pecs yet but I hate quads , the right not so bad , but the left , I can feel all oil being . Pushed in the syringe moves a mm , I feel it , ahhh , now after I really get no pip , im use to it that way , a little sore I get , just the act of pinning , just pinned 3ml and bitched and ahhed the whole time