Dolf
Moderator
Sitting here knowing what I know now, and experiencing what I've experienced if I could go back in time and do it all over again how and what would my first 6 cycles look like.
My intention here is to help that new guy not make the same mistakes I made. I often preach that this is a marathon and not a sprint. It has taken many members here years to build the physique they have. All too often we see the new guy here wanting to run tren his first cycle, or dbol only. They'll run test only or test/dbol their first cycle and then want to run a massive advanced cycle. In today's society myself included we often times seek instant gratification. The better way and right way is to be patient and do it right the first time.
This will only be about cycling and not diet nor training. Those two each deserve their own thread. Below I will lay out 6 cycles I would do in order and why I'd do them. Keep in mind I'm a hard gainer and these cycles would be from that perspective. If I were a naturally bigger guy that carried a naturally higher bf% the early cycles would be the same, but there would be some differences as compounds were added.
Cycle #1:
Pre cycle bloodwork
Test e or c at 500mg per week for 12 weeks.
Adex on hand and not used until gyno issues arised
Mid cycle bloods about week 7 and then adex introduced if e2 came back over 50
Standard pct 2 weeks after last test injection. Clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
8 weeks after pct post cycle bloods.
Cycle 1 would contain three separate bloodworks. Pre cycle for a baseline, mid cycle to check my free test, total test, and e2 levels. Post cycle bloods would be to see how well I bounced back from pct. I would also start a cycle log book to jot down how I felt and what sides I had for future reference.
Cycle #2
Test e or c for 12 weeks at 500mg per week
Adex introduced week 3 at .5 e3d to eod if it mid cycle bloods in cycle 1 indicated it was needed.
Mid cycle bloodwork
Standard pct.
Cycle 2 would be identical except I would have only had mid cycle bloodwork done. Why? If cycle 1 bloods indicated an ai was needed then at week 3 cycle 2 I would have started adex at week 3 and the cycle 2 bloods would let me know what to do with my dosage. Increase/decrease. Still keeping a log.
Cycle #3:
Test e or c for 12 weeks at 500mg per week
Tbol for 6 weeks at 50 to 60mg ed
Adex introduced at week 3 at the dose my cycle 2 bloods indicated.
Mid cycle bloods only if you feel you need to dial in your ai some more.
Standard pct.
Cycle 3 will be the same as the first 2 cycles except this time we added a moderate type oral for a kick start and bloods are optional unless you don't quite have your ai dialed in or you're experiencing sides you can't fix.
Cycle #4:
Test e or c for 18 weeks at 600mg per week
EQ for 16 weeks at 600mg per week
Tbol or dbol for 6 weeks at about 50mg ed.
Mid cycle bloods if using dbol because it can easily cause e2 issues or if you're experiencing sides you can't fix.
Mid cycle blood bank donation
Hcg before pct. We have many post about ways to use it.
Post cycle blood bank donation.
Standard pct.
Cycle 4 we would increase the test dose a bit and add a new mild injectable like eq. Typically you don't want to add 2 new compounds, but eq is very slow acting ester and the other compound is rapid oral that any issues with dbol would rise well before the eq kicked in therefore you could easily determine which compound is causing the issue. Hcg to aid in recovery due to the length of cycle.
Cycle #5
Sust for 12 weeks at 750mg per week. 250mg injected m/w/f
Npp for 12 weeks at 300 to 350mg per week injected m/w/f caber on hand for prolactin sides.
Tbol kickstart at 50mg ed for 6 weeks or an anavar taper the cycles last 6 weeks at 60 to 80mg ed.
Adex introduced at week 3
Mid cycle bloodwork to check prolactin levels
Blood bank donation mid cycle
Hcg if wanted
Standard pct 21 days after last pin due to esters in sust
Cycle 5 is an introduction into the world of 19nor compounds and with the 3 pins per week will start to get you prepared for the eod or ed pinning of short esters. You could choose to kickstart with a familiar oral or choose to taper with a new oral. Once agin adding 2 new compounds is not an issue as long as you taper with the new compound since npp is a faster acting ester. Mid cycle bloods will be needed since this is the first use of a 19nor.
Cycle #6
Here there are a multitude of options at your fingertips.
Test p/npp/tbol
Test p/npp/mast p
Test e or c/deca/dbol
Many many possibilities here at cycle 6. What you see here is a slow and methodical approach to learning how to cycle, how my body responds to different compounds, and how to dial in an ai. How, when, and why to get bloodwork. You should always take the same amount of time off once pct stops as you did on cycle. You can also get bloods done sooner, and if they show you fully recovered you can start early, but I'd take the time off anyways.
You'll also notice tren was not in the equation here at all. Tren while a highly sought after compound is an advanced compound. Knowing yourself well and learning how to quickly feel issues arise is paramount.
In closing hind site is 20/20. If I could go back and do it again this would be what it looked like. Everyone please feel free to share your thoughts on how you would have done things differently, and I hope this will help someone out there.
