My First Cycle

[CaptainPlanet]

Hi there, so I've been reading a lot, and doing a bunch of research for years before coming to this. I just wanted to post my cycle info here as someone requested it. Let me know what you think, this was a little different at first, but I modified it recently to what you see bellow. I am currently in middle of week 2.

16 Week Cycle:

Week 1 to 4
- Test E @ (250mgs weekly, EOD injections)
- Primobolan Depot @ (200mg weekly, changed to 400mg weekly, EOD injection)
- Anavar @ (20mg daily preworkout)
- Proviron @ (25mg daily)
- HCG @ (1000ius weekly, injected EOD)

Week 5 to 8
- Up Anavar dosage @ 40mg daily

Week 8 to 12
- Test E @ (250mgs weekly, EOD injections)
- Primobolan Depot @ (400mg weekly, EOD injection)
- Remove Anavar
- Tbol @ (40mg daily)
- Proviron @ (50mg daily)
- HCG @ (1000ius weekly, injected EOD)
- Test Suspension (@50mg pre-workout added at week 6, when I receive it)

Week 12 - 16
- Would like to extend cycle to 16 weeks with same protocol as week 8 to 12.

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PCT will be letrozole once a week + clomid daily for 2 to 4 weeks.

 

[BiggyBill]

Anavar 20 mg a day is a low dosage. you can increase to 40-50 mg.
Stopping Anavar and immediately going to Tbol means you get a total 12 weeks cycle with orals - that may put too much stress on your liver. Not even mentioning 16 weeks with orals.
Test E 250 can be upped if you don't see results too. Such as 400-500 mg weekly.
is proviron and primobolan enough to keep you away from estrogen issues?

 

[CaptainPlanet]

Guess I could just go off the anavar at week 8, and save the tbol for some other cycle. I upped the dosage to 40mg today after reading your review, 20mg was very mild, I'll up it to 60 before I go off, and try to use 20mg of it before bed for that recoup effect (if it has any).

Would upping Test-E to 500mg and also using Suspension at 50mg daily not really make this a heavy cycle? that would be near 1g of Test weekly, and considering some people are saying to use 100mg of suspension for a better effect, I think I should probably just keep the longer ester at a base 250mg a week. Unless you mean I should immediately just up the Test-E to 500mg, and maybe lower it when I start using the suspension?

 

[suppsforlife]

20 mg Anavar is indeed a very mild dosage. Don't forget Anavar is mild too.
as for Test dosage. If you go for both Test E and Suspension both, just use them in a way to increase testosterone only to the point you can tolerate it. even if considered a heavy cycle - as long as you tolerate it (no sides etc.) is good to go. Some people tolerate 300 mg weekly max. Others 500 mg, others 1000 mg.

 

[IronDaddy]

Would upping Test-E to 500mg and also using Suspension at 50mg daily not really make this a heavy cycle?

that would be 850 mg per week so yes, is a quite heavy cycle, especially with other steroids stacked. There are people running it in such doses, but only with great experience.

Unless you mean I should immediately just up the Test-E to 500mg, and maybe lower it when I start using the suspension?

is up to you, if you feel you can tolerate more, you can go for it

 

[suppsforlife]

totally agree with iron daddy

 

[BiggyBill]

Would upping Test-E to 500mg and also using Suspension at 50mg daily not really make this a heavy cycle?

to the higher end dosage. Some people use even higher dosages, but as I just said it in another post - what is perfect for a person, might be way too dangerous for another person.

 

[IronDaddy]

what is perfect for a person, might be way too dangerous for another person.

for this reason, people need to use compounds according to their needs, not to how their friends tells them to, or someone on internet...

 

[BiggyBill]

Absolute right!!

 

[BrownHornet]

Is there a benefit to splitting Anavar into 2 doses daily? Or just take the daily dose the same time each day (ideally pre-workout?)

 

[CaptainPlanet]

That's the question I was asking @BrownHornet . Essentially some are in the mindset that it is best split to provide more protein synthesis during the time your body is repairing itself, but some others I've heard on youtube say that you get a better effect at the gym if taken preworkout, since you're pushing more weights with a higher single dose. I think it stands to reason that if you're on a test-base anyway, which is an anabolic compound, you'll get the muscle damage from the harder workout with a single dose, and the repair from a good Test dose. Just my two cents.

 

[BiggyBill]

Exactly as mentioned by Cap.
if you want to stay away from “highs and lows” split it up. At least, i personally use in 2 doses a day

 

[BrownHornet]

Thanks. That makes a lot of sense, given the half life is 8-10hrs.

 

[HGH.to]

as much as i know, is better to split. but maybe there are benefits of dosing it once a day...