Gainz.
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Haha... I don't think you want me to answer the first question
. And I do push pull legs rest. But even on my rest days I do something. Usually a hour or 2 everyday
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Haha... I don't think you want me to answer the first question
. And I do push pull legs rest. But even on my rest days I do something. Usually a hour or 2 everyday
adamjeff184
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Yeah i knew u werw gonna say that dude, hey its cardio right- get ur money.
So an hour or two yeah thats what im doin about two hours day but i break it up i do 30-45 minutes of cardio at a time then go do the machines, i just strted lifting recently so my stabilizer muscles on some things need some strengthening but thats all i really did these past cpl years was cardio and machine. R u one of those blessed guys that just has awesome genetics- were you pretty naturally built before u started ?
Hope u dont mind my questions but ill always listen to someone that had put that kinda time and efgort in to kooking like you do.
So an hour or two yeah thats what im doin about two hours day but i break it up i do 30-45 minutes of cardio at a time then go do the machines, i just strted lifting recently so my stabilizer muscles on some things need some strengthening but thats all i really did these past cpl years was cardio and machine. R u one of those blessed guys that just has awesome genetics- were you pretty naturally built before u started ?
Hope u dont mind my questions but ill always listen to someone that had put that kinda time and efgort in to kooking like you do.
Gainz.
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I should you my before and after pics...
When I graduated highschool I was 5'8 110lbs. Started lifting and kept getting taller. By the time I was 26 I was 6ft 176lb. Then I got hurt and didn't touch a weight until I was 32. I was 137lbs from the addiction and just not caring about myself. Now I'm 190-192lb.
So while my genetics aren't terrible... effort and diet is more important than anything.
And... no... I barely do any cardio... I definitely don't run or anything like that. 99% of my cardio is my sex life. So 6-7 times a week for 45-60 minutes I have intense cardio... but it's not part of my program. The only cardio I have besides sex is my heavy bag.
My metabolism keeps me lean. I eat 5 to 6 small meals per day. 3,000-3,500 calories and 300g of protein every day. I drink nothing but water and milk. And try... try to keep fats and sugars low.
But most of me being lean is because of the way I eat.
When I graduated highschool I was 5'8 110lbs. Started lifting and kept getting taller. By the time I was 26 I was 6ft 176lb. Then I got hurt and didn't touch a weight until I was 32. I was 137lbs from the addiction and just not caring about myself. Now I'm 190-192lb.
So while my genetics aren't terrible... effort and diet is more important than anything.
And... no... I barely do any cardio... I definitely don't run or anything like that. 99% of my cardio is my sex life. So 6-7 times a week for 45-60 minutes I have intense cardio... but it's not part of my program
. The only cardio I have besides sex is my heavy bag. My metabolism keeps me lean. I eat 5 to 6 small meals per day. 3,000-3,500 calories and 300g of protein every day. I drink nothing but water and milk. And try... try to keep fats and sugars low.
But most of me being lean is because of the way I eat.
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adamjeff184
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Oh man i jus seen your before pic!
Yeah man respect dude. U been at it lot longer then me , i do think ny protein isnt high enough or my carbs to fuel the workouts so im gonna have to kick that up. I drink mostly water but i have developed a taste for milk so i do drink it iften. I rat lotta peanut butter but i dont eat anything like a good diet and thats where i need to put the emphasis . U
Yeah man respect dude. U been at it lot longer then me , i do think ny protein isnt high enough or my carbs to fuel the workouts so im gonna have to kick that up. I drink mostly water but i have developed a taste for milk so i do drink it iften. I rat lotta peanut butter but i dont eat anything like a good diet and thats where i need to put the emphasis . U
adamjeff184
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Well im gonna disconnect this account now when i need more advice ill create new one thanx for the info .
suppsforlife
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among the strangest comments so far. why would you disconnect it?
adamjeff184
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I cant eat anywhere near that. And my kinease levels r always sky high as is with what im doing so that would taking in that kimd of protein hurt the kidneys even more.
But i should take it up along with the carbs
But i should take it up along with the carbs
Gainz.
Well-known member
I can't eat that much either... but I can drink it!
If you can eat 200g and drink the other 100g... you're golden!
And if you aren't coming close to that... that's why you're not growing brother. All the gear in the world isn't going to matter if your diet isn't on point.
Like building a drag car and not putting gas in it.
adamjeff184
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I understand that but i dont want mass - im after striations a whole lot of em!
Difinition, ice sculpture u feel me?
I am takin the dbol to put on a negligible bit of lean mass the goal is to get to 200-205 of straight definition and given how far ive come in just two years fukk man i only wishbi hadnt started this when i was young because ive got the genetics for it.
But its a little difficult to know that when your puttin heroin and meth into your veins.
I traded those addictions to do this because atleast im healthy now despite my living situation n whatnot.
I stay eatin tuna n peanut butter n milk but im kilkin it up even more so thanx brah for he info.
U guys take care n next time im on here therell b even more noticeable results.
Out like a fukkin brown trout.
( corny i know)
Difinition, ice sculpture u feel me?
I am takin the dbol to put on a negligible bit of lean mass the goal is to get to 200-205 of straight definition and given how far ive come in just two years fukk man i only wishbi hadnt started this when i was young because ive got the genetics for it.
But its a little difficult to know that when your puttin heroin and meth into your veins.
I traded those addictions to do this because atleast im healthy now despite my living situation n whatnot.
I stay eatin tuna n peanut butter n milk but im kilkin it up even more so thanx brah for he info.
U guys take care n next time im on here therell b even more noticeable results.
Out like a fukkin brown trout.
( corny i know)
Gainz.
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I understand that but i dont want mass - im after striations a whole lot of em!
Difinition, ice sculpture u feel me?
I am takin the dbol to put on a negligible bit of lean mass the goal is to get to 200-205 of straight definition and given how far ive come in just two years fukk man i only wishbi hadnt started this when i was young because ive got the genetics for it.
But its a little difficult to know that when your puttin heroin and meth into your veins.
I traded those addictions to do this because atleast im healthy now despite my living situation n whatnot.
I stay eatin tuna n peanut butter n milk but im kilkin it up even more so thanx brah for he info.
U guys take care n next time im on here therell b even more noticeable results.
Out like a fukkin brown trout.
( corny i know)
I eat 3500 cals and 300g of protein... I think I'm pretty lean.
And you want Winny not dbol
adamjeff184
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Yeah the winny depot w the anavar was a damn goid cut cycle, but nothing at all in my opinion gets anywhere near the tren.
That stuff us the shit- i did it cuz its like only one i know of u can keep your gainz when u come off it. I think more n anything edpecially since im on test for the long haul niw is the protein intake but i wanna eat it in foods i seem to do better that way. U guys all have goid advice n i jus had to figure alotta this iut by trial n error but i love this stuff it keeps me outta trouble i do ut fir me its an aesthetics thing ya know its changed my life for the better.
That stuff us the shit- i did it cuz its like only one i know of u can keep your gainz when u come off it. I think more n anything edpecially since im on test for the long haul niw is the protein intake but i wanna eat it in foods i seem to do better that way. U guys all have goid advice n i jus had to figure alotta this iut by trial n error but i love this stuff it keeps me outta trouble i do ut fir me its an aesthetics thing ya know its changed my life for the better.
Gainz.
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Me too brother!
I went from almost overdosing on oxys and Xanax to what I look like today.
And solid protein vs liquid protein... it's the same thing brother. Arnold use to drink several shakes a day. So... it definitely works. 100+ of my grams of protein are liquid... and it works great for me.
The more protein the harder and dryer the muscle. The less fat and sugar the more striations.
Split 3,000 calories and 300g of protein in between 4 meals and a shake. Do this every day and you will look like me in no time!
Diet is more important than the gear you use or your workout program. It's literally the most important part of this lifestyle!!!!
adamjeff184
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Okay well once my unemployment kikks in first part november i can get that but i would split the shakes up into smaller amounts so my body can utilize the most of what it can. Kreatinine is already sky high so i gotta b careful n not bombard my kidneys with mass protein but rather split it up.
I just realized ut was a couple of u that i had hard time with a year ago when i first started runnin gear - u guys were pretty hard on me like i disnt have any business here and i am pretty sensitive so i remembered it but its water let bygones b n all that.
I really coulda ised ur expertise back then i almost shut down my liver and kidneys when i ran 5 different same testosterones and 2 or 3 different eaters of tren!
I disnt know any better so u guys should b more willing to helo someone along regardless of your personal feelings and thats a primw example y.
Not your fault im hardheaded i just really coulda used this repore ya feel me…
Im glad u meatheads came around though lol.
And im glad your here to tell me u came outta the zanny n oxy chains. Really- i feel that pain i know bout that.
I just realized ut was a couple of u that i had hard time with a year ago when i first started runnin gear - u guys were pretty hard on me like i disnt have any business here and i am pretty sensitive so i remembered it but its water let bygones b n all that.
I really coulda ised ur expertise back then i almost shut down my liver and kidneys when i ran 5 different same testosterones and 2 or 3 different eaters of tren!
I disnt know any better so u guys should b more willing to helo someone along regardless of your personal feelings and thats a primw example y.
Not your fault im hardheaded i just really coulda used this repore ya feel me…
Im glad u meatheads came around though lol.
And im glad your here to tell me u came outta the zanny n oxy chains. Really- i feel that pain i know bout that.
be careful with your kidneys , i developed renal failure 2 xs so my creatinine levels were bad i cant have that much protein because i had kidney damage also, non repairable. iam 57 so i have to take it easy and plan everything i do but ive learned alot from the guys on here in the year or so ive been on here......i still take alot of gear though that will never change. i want to get back to the days when i was competing and winning.
adamjeff184
Member
Im sorry but r u being for real right unclem?
Not sire if thats a jab at me because of the issues i had a year ago or so on here or if your being for real sonim asking….
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Not sire if thats a jab at me because of the issues i had a year ago or so on here or if your being for real sonim asking….
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adamjeff184
Member
Because if u guys r toyin with me then dont beat around the bush.
Not many people like me i have a horrible disposition but i havent ever done anythi g to anyone on here ive only come here periodically for sound advice but its not gonna b where im the centerpiece of some joke or anything of that nature.
If im not wanted here then by all means just b upfront but u dont understand i damnear put myself i to liver failure when i got so disgusted at guys bangin on me when all i was lookin for was some direction regarding being brand new into runnin gear.
Not many people like me i have a horrible disposition but i havent ever done anythi g to anyone on here ive only come here periodically for sound advice but its not gonna b where im the centerpiece of some joke or anything of that nature.
If im not wanted here then by all means just b upfront but u dont understand i damnear put myself i to liver failure when i got so disgusted at guys bangin on me when all i was lookin for was some direction regarding being brand new into runnin gear.
thats the truth about wat i said, no jab intended brother. nobody is toying with you i have been on gear nearly 33 yrs i dont have time to take jabs at anyone and i take BB seriously i been lifting forsince i was 12 so dont thinnk like that i know where your coming from brother. take it easy and stick around here.
Gainz.
Well-known member
Bro... don't take this the wrong way... but if we all told you that you didn't have any business running gear... and then almost shut your kidneys down and shot so much gear your dick doesn't work... it sounds like we we're right.... right?
I've been here for like 18 months... so odds are I was here... and we're usually pretty good about being respectful and not bullying. So if we bullied you... I'm truly sorry. (Probably Aussie had a lot to do with that... haha.. I miss him)
But at the end of the day I don't give a flying fuck about your feelings brother... I care about your health!!!!!!
From the sound of it you came looking to run a crazy cycle... we said no... just run 300mg of test for 12-16 weeks.
Then we probably asked for your prior experience with gear, if you had bloods, basic knowledge of dosing and all that and you probably seemed very inexperienced.
We probably told you that you weren't ready. And to get bloods done and focus on diet and training.
Then one of our members... our previous member from down under went a little crazy on you.
Hence why he's not with us anymore.
And you just decided not to listen to us and decided to run 1000mg a week for a year straight... fucked yourself up and now you're back for help.
Am I close?
Brother... please don't delete your account... stay... enjoy the brotherhood here.
Keep us posted, learn from the guys with more experience and knowledge.
You don't have to be a crazy active member... but keeping the same name will help us remember you when you come back for help again.
I'm truly sorry we pushed you away... I'm truly sorry you didn't heed our warnings. What happened to you is EXACTLY what I don't want to happen, and why I fight so hard to keep this place respectful and not full of hate... like so many other forums with such terrible information.
But honestly... I don't think gear is right for you... not yet. I mean you're already on it and now you need it... but you went from one needle to another without ever learning how to control your addiction.
And trust me there's no judgement here... I was a fucking junkie... I shouldn't be alive... much less judging others.
But like H, gear can be just as addictive. But it's going to destroy your life in other ways.
More gear doesn't mean more muscle... it just means more problems.
Hence why you're having so many at the moment.
Right now even at 300mg a week for a trt dose is wayyyyy to much!!!
Fucking Larry Wheels doesn't cruise on 300mg a week and he's twice your size.
That's still your addict brain telling you that you need more. When you don't. You need more food, not more gear.
Your running dbol, then talking about how to much food is bad for your kidneys... WHAT?
I'm sorry brother but that doesn't make any sense!
Food is 100000% better than dbol.
You will put on more lean mass with $100 worth of chicken and rice than $100 worth of dbol.
Fact... period.. end of conversation. 300g of protein isn't even a crazy amount.
I'm really not trying to attack you man... but your priorities are fucked. Taking 300mg of test per week and dbol... and talking about not eating to much because it's bad for you... I mean... bro... just... no!
It's the exact opposite. Your diet should be your number 1 priority. Then your lifting program and your goals with gear should be to take as little as possible to keep growing and sides to a minimum.
So far my biggest blast was 600 test, 400 tren and 400 mast. I put 11lbs (of lean muscle) on in 15 weeks.
Do you think that if I did
1,200 test, 800 tren and 800 mast I would have put 22lbs on?
No!!! Absolutely not!
Honestly I could have taken 300 test 100 tren and 100 mast and put 20lbs on if I ate more of the right foods.
I didn't because I'm a ex fuckin junkie who thinks more is more... and even though I still look good I really struggle with my diet. If I had the money and discipline to eat how I really wanted... boy... I would... id already be at 215. But... food is expensive and I really struggle to eat more than 3,500 cals. I'll literally throw up in my sleep.
Ok... this rant is long enough... but I'll end it with
I'm sorry for your last experience with us. Please don't leave... stay... enjoy the forum... make it your second home like so many of us have. So many of us are ex addicts and still struggle with dosage amounts and struggle with fuckin life in general... it's why we're fucking here brother!
adamjeff184
Member
Damn u been runnin cycles 33 years?
So lemme ask u then people have told me that my neck has gotten thick - is that something that can happen with gear? Because i dont exercise my neck lol- and i am a bit defensive i know im just used to the worst so ive come to always expect it.
Ty for the clarification its hard for me to read things iver emails sometimes becasuse im used to goin by peoples expressionisms n body language to get a read of people, here its lil different.
But damn man thats impressive u ran gear that long some people try to say its cheating but i think it unlocks your bodies true genetic markers its not like the juice does the work for ya its bout the protein synthesis
So lemme ask u then people have told me that my neck has gotten thick - is that something that can happen with gear? Because i dont exercise my neck lol- and i am a bit defensive i know im just used to the worst so ive come to always expect it.
Ty for the clarification its hard for me to read things iver emails sometimes becasuse im used to goin by peoples expressionisms n body language to get a read of people, here its lil different.
But damn man thats impressive u ran gear that long some people try to say its cheating but i think it unlocks your bodies true genetic markers its not like the juice does the work for ya its bout the protein synthesis