Got from pharm company with ath codes they checked out. Can post who it was just ask. 25mg ED. Day 1 felt lil happy lil energy which I naturally have none same on day 2 not as sore idk if it's a placebo. Day 3 tired as fuxk no energy in gym every thing difficult also I take it with flaxseed .then n 2guard several hrs later
Var check legit? Day 3 feel like shit
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lineman1007
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Are you doin a var only cycle? I always add test to a var cycle.
Yes I understand the concern but they don't give test when they perscibe it also seen people's blood work from only cycle test doesn't drop alot till end everybody says feel alot of energy first few days. My sides were hurting a lil so I stopped its just crazy to me that I felt that way makes me wonder about the pills. gitting blood work in few days
lineman1007
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Oh, gotcha. I agree to stop right away and see what the bloods results are. Best of luck
Gainz.
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Been here over a year... No one has ever asked my gender...
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Gainz.
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No ped use before
Yes bloods before
N 2guard 3 days before starting only used var 3 days hell.or w/e the hell it was makes me wonder gonna find out. I just slaped that name together ima male no gues the user name fits ill be lil girl after using var wo test baseahahaha
Yeah brother you need to run test. Then you can add var. That's why you feel like shit.
You introduced var... A quick acting oral steroid. But since then you have shut down your natural test production. 25mg of var isn't enough to keep you going.
Stop taking it. Let your test levels go back up to baseline... Then start some real oil test.
300mg of test for 16 weeks.
You can run var for the last 4 weeks if you want.
So ur telling me var will completely shut me down that fast from what ive seen others bloods for aas cycles it didnt completely wreck it it droped but not like doing test shut down .and also read alot of people saying the boost they got some ofcorse some being the free t boost it gives. Im not saying ur not knowledgeable but my kidneys feel funny so im going with mabye that and i have stoped.
My goal is not to be big no 300 test for me might end up on trt have a app soon 466 test. free 11
My goal is not to be big no 300 test for me might end up on trt have a app soon 466 test. free 11
Gainz.
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If you take 1mg a week or 1000mg a week it will shut you down.
You don't get the car plus your natural levels... It just doesn't work that way.
Also test boosters... Don't fuckin work. That's all placebo nonsense. Black pepper extract and horny goat weed doesn't fuckin do anything.
Let's put it like this... If there's no side effects... There's no effect!
And yes it will shut you down that quickly and tax your liver and kidneys.
If you're on test and take var you will get a boost for sure. But var alone... You'll get exactly what happened to you. A boost at first until you shut down, then the feeling of shit.
HGH.to
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that explains why you got that feeling. your test wasn't very high already. then you introduced var and it lowered even more so you felt this way. and yes, var does have the ability to completely shut you down, pretty much as any other steroids. BTW, if you continue using steroids, I'm afraid you're going to end in TRT either way. the only way to avoid ending on TRT is to forget about steroids and have the healthiest possible life with best diet, workout, stress-free, enough sex, sleep etc. and I'm telling you this a source selling steroids.
just trying to make you understand a couple of things that you should know before actually using steroids, especially at those levels. what's your age?
I don't understand where the idea or "bloodwork" is coming from that you could run just about any real AAS without shutdown? I'm relatively new in this space is there anything that a man can run & still get returns plus not simultaneously shut down their natural production?
Gainz.
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Not real gear no... You can run bullshit test boosters... Amazon shit... But no. Any real gear is going to shut down your natural levels. That's why all men run test as a base... Then add compounds like deca, tren, mast, primo, anavar, dbol, Halo, anadrol, npp... You can't run any of those things without running test.
The only thing I know of that you can run that will help is HCG.
But... I don't have much experience with that compound by itself.
Everyone I know that runs hcg is also on test.
I know a little about hcg but it will really only give you a good boost if your leaning towards secondary hypogonadal otherwise it will be minor. My lh and fsh and T was in the dumps no sex drive or boner for 2 long. Started with Friday 200mg test e and 1000iu HCG, I woke up Saturday hard as a fucking rock bro it was amazing.
Assuming HCG was at play
Assuming HCG was at play
Gainz.
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That's awesome brother!
Trt is one of the greatest things in the world
Indeed it is, I was so happy I included HCG from the start, after I get stable on my "sport" dose of TRT I will minimize my HCG use so I don't build a tolerance so to speak. planning 83mg 3x week, Hcg 500iu 3x week and including cjc1295-dac soon to try n get back on track as speedy as I can without overloading my system. Atleast that's the current plan still in the air. AIs on hand aswell
Gainz.
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Sounds solid to me!
You should also look into running a small amount of mast instead of ai.
It can keep mast low and increase libido without all the nastiness of ai
Will definitely look into it thank you. I have to be ontop of my estrogen been a problem without extra T in me, just using .25 Adex atm and will drop it soon to as needed
Gainz.
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I'm a huge fan of running mast instead of ai. Especially if you need a lot of ai. Not only will mast be cheaper, but safer.
Plus you get the awesome libido increase. I've been running mast for over 40 weeks straight now. Ran on blast at 400mg. Then on cruise at 100mg, and back on blast at 200mg.
Never felt better... Bloods always on point, no gyno or water retention. Plus mast makes you feel like a superhero - pornstar.
Same cruise dose of test? Is there a ratio of test to mast from cruise to blast or just gotta check estrogen?
Proprianate or enathate to start?
like find the dose on p then switch to E or is that a waste of time and $?