Introduction

[carolinacat]

Hey guys! Im interested in trying a cycle and wondering what would be best? Im 6'0 173 25yo. Been working out all my life, trying to take myself to the next level. Everything is completely new to me here, so any suggestions would be appreciated. THANKS

 

[Parameddog]

Hi Carolinacat, nice to have you on-board.

Out of interest - what is your goal? Bulk up or cut fat? The next level is quite ambiguous if you know what I mean.

 

[unclem]

Hey guys! Im interested in trying a cycle and wondering what would be best? Im 6'0 173 25yo. Been working out all my life, trying to take myself to the next level. Everything is completely new to me here, so any suggestions would be appreciated. THANKS

you got a pm

 

[unclem]

Hey guys! Im interested in trying a cycle and wondering what would be best? Im 6'0 173 25yo. Been working out all my life, trying to take myself to the next level. Everything is completely new to me here, so any suggestions would be appreciated. THANKS

if you have questions just pm me ill do my best to help u out my brother. or the other guys on here can help along to.

 

[carolinacat]

Hi Carolinacat, nice to have you on-board.

Out of interest - what is your goal? Bulk up or cut fat? The next level is quite ambiguous if you know what I mean.

Man id like to cut first, I'm not huge by any means, nor do I wish to be. Id say end goal would be 180 lean.

 

[HGH.to]

Hey guys! Im interested in trying a cycle and wondering what would be best? Im 6'0 173 25yo. Been working out all my life, trying to take myself to the next level. Everything is completely new to me here, so any suggestions would be appreciated. THANKS

assuming you're a man and you have no health issues (you should have bloodwork before starting the cycle), generally, the first steroid cycle goes with testosterone alone. 12 weeks at about 300 mg/week.

 

[carolinacat]

assuming you're a man and you have no health issues (you should have bloodwork before starting the cycle), generally, the first steroid cycle goes with testosterone alone. 12 weeks at about 300 mg/week.

Yeah im a perefectly healthy dude. What would pct be?

 

[Parameddog]

PCT - Post cycle therapy. To ensure your natural testosterone doesn't shut down and returns and that you do not grow MaNbOObs

 

[Gainz.]

Man id like to cut first, I'm not huge by any means, nor do I wish to be. Id say end goal would be 180 lean.

I'm 6ft 180lb lean... trust me... its not enough brother!

But yes, 300mg of test e per week for 12 weeks. 150mg on Monday and 150mg on Thursday.
3,000 calories a day, 300g of protein per day. Low fat, low sugar. Don't worry about carbs. Cut out all soda, juice, sports drinks. drink as close to a gallon of water per day as you can. All other drinks should be milk.
4 weeks after your very last pin, so week 16 you start your pct.
Week 1 and 2 of your pct 40mg of Nolvadex every day.
Week 3 and 4 20mg of Nolvadex every day.
That's officially the end of your first cycle.
Then wait 10 weeks and you can start another.

You also need some Arimidex for any high estrogen sides you might get. At 6ft 173lb you're already pretty lean, so I'm assuming you won't get to many high est sides. Usually the higher bf% you are... the higher the risk.
But because everyone is different... you absolutely need the Arimidex.
That's only taken as needed. if you're nips start to itch or start to hurt, or if you start to retain water.
But for now, just get it... you don't want to start growing tits while the Arimidex is in the mail. But if you start to develop sides, we'll help you figure out doses when we get there...
I think I covered everything..
Someone else brought up blood work... cycle.. pct...adex and diet.. so yeah I think that's it for now brother

 

[Imgame]

You aren’t ready for steroids yet. I suggest you spend a couple of months on here getting your hole reamed out for all the stupid questions. Then when your hole stops bleeding maybe you will be ready.

 

[Imgame]

if you have questions just pm me ill do my best to help u out my brother. or the other guys on here can help along to.

How about tell him here. We all know you want to sell him bunk gear.

 

[suppsforlife]

You aren’t ready for steroids yet. I suggest you spend a couple of months on here getting your hole reamed out for all the stupid questions. Then when your hole stops bleeding maybe you will be ready. View attachment 866101

so the guy is trying to learn something and you're here insulting him for no fucking reason?

 

[Imgame]

so the guy is trying to learn something and you're here insulting him for no fucking reason?

 

[bobby ricky]

Hey guys! Im interested in trying a cycle and wondering what would be best? Im 6'0 173 25yo. Been working out all my life, trying to take myself to the next level. Everything is completely new to me here, so any suggestions would be appreciated. THANKS

Hi brother, you need to do testosterone first and only test. You will see how your body handles it. I don’t pct because I’m 52 and cruise in between larger doses. I would try anything between 300-500 test per week and see how you handle that

 

[bobby ricky]

I'm 6ft 180lb lean... trust me... its not enough brother!

But yes, 300mg of test e per week for 12 weeks. 150mg on Monday and 150mg on Thursday.
3,000 calories a day, 300g of protein per day. Low fat, low sugar. Don't worry about carbs. Cut out all soda, juice, sports drinks. drink as close to a gallon of water per day as you can. All other drinks should be milk.
4 weeks after your very last pin, so week 16 you start your pct.
Week 1 and 2 of your pct 40mg of Nolvadex every day.
Week 3 and 4 20mg of Nolvadex every day.
That's officially the end of your first cycle.
Then wait 10 weeks and you can start another.

You also need some Arimidex for any high estrogen sides you might get. At 6ft 173lb you're already pretty lean, so I'm assuming you won't get to many high est sides. Usually the higher bf% you are... the higher the risk.
But because everyone is different... you absolutely need the Arimidex.
That's only taken as needed. if you're nips start to itch or start to hurt, or if you start to retain water.
But for now, just get it... you don't want to start growing tits while the Arimidex is in the mail. But if you start to develop sides, we'll help you figure out doses when we get there...
I think I covered everything..
Someone else brought up blood work... cycle.. pct...adex and diet.. so yeah I think that's it for now brother

Sorry guy’s but 225 lean is not enough. I feel small, I can eat my way to 250 but my lower ab veins will disappear. I miss 250 alot. I’m almost about to say fuck abs. I mean I think people want to see them but I really don’t care anymore. I’m 6.3 and I just look better and bigger at 250.
Do you guys think abs matter that much ?
Want honest opinions please.

 

[Imgame]

Sorry guy’s but 225 lean is not enough. I feel small, I can eat my way to 250 but my lower ab veins will disappear. I miss 250 alot. I’m almost about to say fuck abs. I mean I think people want to see them but I really don’t care anymore. I’m 6.3 and I just look better and bigger at 250.
Do you guys think abs matter that much ?
Want honest opinions please.

I like it when I’m at training and mine are showing. Makes the younger students realise they can work harder. I’m not really worried about having them or I would stop eating cake.
I have veins popping out in lots of places so a bit of belly fat doesn’t bother me.

I get more satisfaction from having the people I train with talk about how they can punch me as hard as they want and it doesn’t faze me. So abs are just for show

 

[suppsforlife]

Do you guys think abs matter that much ?

I think you should go for whatever makes you feel better. I've seen guys literally starving themselves for the abs and they love having abs so much that they wouldn't give up on them for anything.
but i'm honestly more like you, fuck those abs. I feel better when I'm bigger. and you also look bigger with your clothes on which is much better than being skinnier with abs

 

[Gainz.]

Do you guys think abs matter that much ?
Want honest opinions please.

This is why we're all different and want different things.
To me, yes abs matter. But I'm a extremely vain Ginny. How I look without a shirt on is the only thing I care about. I don't care about how much I can bench, or squat.
I live near a pretty popular water attraction. So in the nice months lots of people come to my little town, and I'm always out walking my pitbulls... without a shirt on. The joy I get from watching another guys gf just staring at me... then the dirty look he gives me once he catches her... almost enough to make my dick hard! I don't know why I get so much pleasure from that, especially because 98% of the time I wouldn't fuck their gf on a dare.

Its just how I'm wired, it's what makes me happy.
But I'm definitely not big enough...not yet.
6ft 180lb just isn't gonna cut it for me.

But if being bigger makes you more happy than having abs.. then that's what you do brother!
I mean...how often are you shirtless in public?if the answer is almost never... then abs really don't matter.

But my next bit of advice is.. 225lb you have abs, and 250lb you don't... but you haven't done tren yet!
2 good blasts on tren and you'll be at 250lb with abs for sure!

 

[bobby ricky]

I’m known as the naked man I believe that says it all

 

[Gainz.]

I’m known as the naked man I believe that says it all

Hahaha.. well... then maybe you should find that happy medium.
225 with abs... 250 you feel big...
So... what about 240?
And again... once you get off deca and start the tren, I think you're gonna find having abs closer to 250 much easier to obtain