cycle frequency/amount

Jay206void

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hey, sustanon 250 and tri tren. I'm being told to pin those everyday but at lowered amounts. I've never heard of someone pinnin any compound more then 3 times week even short esters. anyone have any feedback on why that kind of advice would b given, I was told to use smaller amounts but everyday with those compounds.
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HGH.to

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While everyday injections will offer maximum stable levels, indeed, using them daily might not be required. However, injecting them only twice a week, might not be enough either because of the Acetate and Propionate esters in those compounds. This means that you should use them EOD or E3D.
 

Jay206void

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no man , I have sustanon and tritren. I recently got some test prop and tren ace from Ryzen pharmaceuticals. I started using those in conjunction to try n keep shit level as possible and it threw me all off. So much so that I stopped using this new shit I got from irondaddy and not sure if it's thrown me into the hormone adaptation but the blood tests show the test levels r well over 2000ng ml, but creatinine levels r about 1200 which obviously is really elevated. The red blood cells r high as well the WBC.. this has happened just about every cycle and considering - it's not that outta ordinary but this is first full cycle I've run the other ones were 4 weeks on /off. not using any anti estrogens, so I know it's all kinds of shit going on- I guess what I am kinda concerned with is I can see sediment floating around when I shake up these newest test n tren vials reminds me of a snow globe, lol. Issue then becomes I've only dealt with 2 sites pretty extensively and neither has ever done me wrong. I asked the one site and the dude said it could b something about powder and them not cooking it down enough or something. All I know is if this is what it's come to then I gotta go elsewhere or just stop for awhile n let everything balance out.
 

Lee.the.Demi.Human

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no man , I have sustanon and tritren. I recently got some test prop and tren ace from Ryzen pharmaceuticals. I started using those in conjunction to try n keep shit level as possible and it threw me all off. So much so that I stopped using this new shit I got from irondaddy and not sure if it's thrown me into the hormone adaptation but the blood tests show the test levels r well over 2000ng ml, but creatinine levels r about 1200 which obviously is really elevated. The red blood cells r high as well the WBC.. this has happened just about every cycle and considering - it's not that outta ordinary but this is first full cycle I've run the other ones were 4 weeks on /off. not using any anti estrogens, so I know it's all kinds of shit going on- I guess what I am kinda concerned with is I can see sediment floating around when I shake up these newest test n tren vials reminds me of a snow globe, lol. Issue then becomes I've only dealt with 2 sites pretty extensively and neither has ever done me wrong. I asked the one site and the dude said it could b something about powder and them not cooking it down enough or something. All I know is if this is what it's come to then I gotta go elsewhere or just stop for awhile n let everything balance out.
Sustanon and Tri Tren HAVE TO BE PINNED EVERY OTHER DAY, MINIMUM.

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To avoid being in the state that you are currently in, you have to inject at the halfway point of the half life. So half of whatever number is above.

Your injection schedule is dictated by the shortest ester you are using regardless of how long the long ester takes to breakdown.

Steroids affect everyone in slightly different ways. Other people might be fine with unstable levels, unfortunately I don't think this is the case for you and I strongly advise that you follow the advice being offered, and pin more frequently.

The odd paragraph here and there wouldn't go a miss either.
 

Jay206void

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man that helps, very useful actually.
but confused on what u mean by " odd paragraph here".?
I only put out there the particulars of what my issue is with what I'm dealing with.
I actually pinned at lowered amount last 3 days n am feeling better. But I'm sure I can drop it to like u say at every other day being as am leveling back out.
 

Lee.the.Demi.Human

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If your still having issues pinning EoD on acetate, choices are use it every day or discontinue use.

Everyone has a specific problem, for me it's that I can crash my E2 levels very easily. Another guy on here grows a boob whenever he sees a vial of test so has to use moxi on cycle. Then there's a guy who can run 1.2 grams of test a week with no ancillaries.

If the literature says one thing but your body says another, which one will you trust?
 

Jay206void

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as I said, I stopped the test prop and tren ace I got from a different site and that seems itself to b correct some of the crash or whatever this hammered shit feeling has been. I been using the sustanon n TRI tren at lower amount daily past 3 days, now will go to every other day. I am listening 2 my body that's y I'm playing around with different amounts n frequency. I don't have any arimitex n I don't think I need any now. Putting some carbs back in diet has done good 2.
Fukk, if my body is burning muscle that I work hard to get them what's the point right
u guys know ur stuff that's for sure. I gotta learn everything the hard way n then some.
Took me going 2 prison 3 times B4 I had the epiphany ' This fukkin sux', now I don't put myself there anymore so I do learn might take me stepping in shit a few times B4 I realize it stinks but I do fall in2 line so 2 speak.

Hey, do u guys know is it true that with tren u will keep your gains? I know that's a lot to do with maintenance of what u have gotten but I hear tren is unique in as far as keeping what u gained on it.
 

Lee.the.Demi.Human

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Yes it's known for its ability to lock in your gains on a hard cut.

It's also known for making people do crazy shit without warning, so that's something to think about. So as to not repeat past mistakes and that.
 

Jay206void

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Brah....Ir not making That shit up, I'm kinda a snap case as it is and I threw a guy few days ago , I scared myself with the way I'll react to things so I've had 2 reel it in alot. It definitely just outta nowhere can get u pissed off at nothing.I am on last cycle if I ever continue what I started I'm gonna switch to hgh n test or something else that's good for cutting. But u know I e been cutting for damnear a year n half 7 months I been running cycles now I can't really cut anymore, against what I wanted now I'm actually putting on some size especially in my shoulders. So at some point I think u can't help but start putting on solid muscle. I'm nothing I'm sure like u guys but fukk man I never dreamed I'd come this far, iove this stuff - I'm noticing women noticing me now, lol! it's great I'm 44 yrs old and in better shape then alotta people younger then me. Anyways, thanx for that information. I would definitely after using it now and familiar with it id strongly advise anyone like me with PTSD if they gonna use tren b very aware and mindful of how they will perceive things and not just react.
 

Dunbar

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hey, sustanon 250 and tri tren. I'm being told to pin those everyday but at lowered amounts. I've never heard of someone pinnin any compound more then 3 times week even short esters. anyone have any feedback on why that kind of advice would b given, I was told to use smaller amounts but everyday with those compounds.
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Jay, thank you for the question. Someone might pin everyday to aquire a very steady blood level. As you mentioned, this is typical with shorter half-life compounds like testosterone propionate (found in your sustanon) and tren acetate (found in your tri tren). Daily pinning might be overkill unless you enjoy the process, however; every other day is typical with these. For a more detailed procedure, your entire plan would be helpful. Include your stats and experience with gear. Also include all the compounds you plan to run. Thanks again brother.
 

Jay206void

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Ok well I'll lay down some of the particulars for ya. I am 44 y but u asked soears young. I'm 5 ft 8 n half. I weigh in current at 193. ( some of that is water retention from the test) but I've been in gym going on 18 months the last 8 months of that has been with gear assistance. I've run shorter cycles up to this last one I'm currently on. but it's predominantly been Test n tren. I've went back n forth with the shorter and longer esters. recently I started just to try n keep an even keel so to speak used both the long and short action esters together just at different intervals. The tren does without question do what it's supposed with me. I used Diana bol, and deca aside from these. There's something special about TREN and I've gladly sacrificed restful 8 hour sleep nights for 2 to 3 hour wake up drenched sleep nights. It's gotten better lately probably because this is the 1st full 12 week cycle I've run and have adjusted to some things. I don't care about the tren dick which is real, I don't use the damn thing anymore anyway. (sorry if it's TMI) but u asked so here it is. The first 9 or 10 months in the gym was with all the bullshit creatinines and protein powders, aminos, everything else that comes along with the usual GNC diet But even though I was busting my ass all I could accomplish was the weight loss and lower body fat percentage which is what I wanted at first, but I kept hitting g plateau after plateau and I'd switch my routine up and I wasn't getting anywhere. A few years ago a doctor had started giving me weekly testosterone injections because my levels both free and total were below the range. Alotta that aside from my age is my history. I was a heroin addict for 13 years and the last 3 years of that addiction were with crystal meth. Now that all ties in ya know it just depletes your testosterone levels and I struggled with something called anhedonia because my brain just doesn't release dopamine or endorphins like other people. Now I've been in shape before I did prison time and all I did was burpees, pull ups , dips, calisthenics, isometrics, I got out each time pretty cut in but it goes away fast. So I got clean almost 18 months ago and I wanted to get into the construction laborer union 242 so I wanted to get into shape for it because it's a hard job. So about 8 months ago it occurred to me.....Jay your not scared of needles, your not getting anywhere even eating a better diet and taking all this bullshit from GNC - y the hell not! so I let the ol balls drop straightened my back out my shoulders up n decided to go for it and I ordered my 1st battalion of gear. Dude!! in 1 fukkin month, I swear u der everything holy it was night n day difference. Now I screwed that first cycle up as I did so much of everything I got to point I couldn't get my feet in my work boots my legs were so swollen. Edema.
gave myself a couple rounds of cellulitis because I wasn't clean the area good enough where I was pinning. I've since learned, I've got things down now as far as my plan well I originally wanted to do 1 year of gear and then transition into TRT and from there just utilize the peptides, and other supplements. I take L carnitine, and L lysine now to help with synthesis of the protein. I also take L arginine and L citrulline for the nitric oxide affects and I really do get benefits from those supplements. But I had 2 partial tears of the tendons in my right bicep a while back and saw a specialist once and never made it in to see the surgeon but they were on the fence with whether I should get surgery or let it heal on its own and then I ordered the deca Durabolin and briefly incorporated that into my cycle, I wanted to use the hgh and deca but I couldn't afford to get the hgh at the time as the shit is expensive.
 

Jay206void

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didn't mean to hit submit so here's the rest of last response. So that's the plan. I really want to get to the 1 year mark but I'm gonna slowly titrate down from the tren I'm currently using. I'm also besides the sustanon and tri tren using testosterone propionate, and tren acetate in between using the others. So basically I use smaller amounts of the two one day and the next I'll then use the short acting esters to keep things level. I just had blood tests today in fact and the Ast and Alt are elevated but lower then they were 2 weeks ago. ( those being your liver and kidneys) my creatinine level went down by almost 700 points it was damnear 1209, now it's 4 hundred something but from everything I've read up on with these things weight lifters generally can have levels outside the normal ranges it's not uncommon. As I said, if I wind up able to finish the year commitment out then I will definitely not be doing it with tren but rather Anavar and maybe a little Winstol for the cutting affects. But really, I don't know how much more I can cut so now against what is wanted or intended my weight is going up but it's lean mass. I'm putting in muscle at this point. I never wanted that I don't wanna b big n yoked I want lean definition. But because of the super high creatinine levels I was having rabdo- something. so I had to put carbs back in the diet. But in doing so I'm really noticing the muscles getting more n more. So I'm thinking now I'm putting on some mass n a little later of fat, when I get to whatever point it'll b time to cut this new shit in. But look dude, this is all new to me I'm just doing the work and my body is doing what it does. I can't quit now and again the beautiful thing with tren is all the gains I can keep with proper maintenance n diet But to b clear one way or another I've no intentions of going of the testosterone at all. So if I had to call it quits after this cycle I would still either through endocrinologist or the web id opt to stay on the testosterone. I was a burnt out dope fiend a couple years ago, I couldn't do a pushup. Now I can put up over 700 lbs on that leg press. I've come a full 180, I ain't all ripped like u guys but if u had seen me then and seen me now u would appreciate what I'm Trying To point out . I love this man, I can customize my body and make little adjustments just like an engine in a car. The more I research and learn about the science behind all this the more I'm into it Make no mistake this is my sobriety and if I didn't have the gym I wouldn't have got to this landmark achievement of mine. So that's my plan. Cone off the tren slowly and if I do cycle on n off for the year then I'll finish it with a different regimen the the test n tren. Short term the tren is fine but it affects over time my PTSD symptoms I deal with and more then once I've had to make myself feel it in and get a grip on my behaviors.
Anyways, I know I wrote a book but the least u can do is read it. u asked.
Alright then my guy hope u have a clearer picture now.
 
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