My first cycle

Crazy Eddie

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So for a first cycle I don’t recommend taking anything other than Test. That way when you get bloods. If something is off you’ll know it’s just the test and dosage. When you start stacking oils and mixing orals in. If you’re having sides and your bio markers are skewed you’re not going to know what to adjust.
Also keep in mind that you’re only getting about 69% some percent of the dosage with Cypionate and the other 30 some % is the cypionate ester. So per injection if your pinning 1ml at 250mg/ml you’re only getting 69% of that dose in serum.
I could go on for days. But I’d for a virgin muscle and my first time keep the injections to .5ml in your ventral glute. It’s a larger muscle and can handle a little more than delts. And what ever you do DO NOT pin your quads. There are far too many blood vessels and nerves there and you’re asking for trouble. Trust me when I say just stick to your glutes and, small amounts .3-.5 in your delts at first. After a month or two you could try 1ml in your delts.
I wouldn’t say 250 for a first dose is high. Hell I started with 250 and blasted stupid amounts of test and Deca my first cycle.
But if your goin to be stubborn and want to do 500+ mg you gotta work up to it. So week one 125 week #2 175 week #3 200 week #3 225 etc…To be clear… I’m not recommending you do 500mg. You can get great results off 250mg. Just saying IF. You were to be a stubborn ass like myself. You need to work up to that dose.
And just out of curiosity why did you pick Cypionate as the ester?…
 

suppsforlife

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agree with you. besides the fact that there's no point is gradually increasing the dosage weekly because Test Cyp (or Enanthate) will fully kick in after around 4-6 weeks of continuous use. Just start with your dosage and then adjust according to your blood and the way you feel. For the rest - I completely agree with you! solid advice!
 

Palten03

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Tomorrow I start my sixth week of my cycle and I must say that I am satisfied. I'm seeing more muscle fullness, more strength (even the various joint discomforts seem like they're gone!), lately I've been feeling "meaner" and with absurd desire to workout! With today I finish the 5 weeks of dianabol (30mg daily) while the C-test I will continue it for another 5 weeks.
Fortunately to date I have had no adverse effects whatsoever.
 

Palten03

Member
finished my first cycle with testosterone cypionate, dianabol and mk677. I feel great, I haven't had any side effects, I've gained weight and everyone tells me I'm "bigger", fuller, as if I'm different 🤣. Now start PCT with clomid and nolva. Do you recommend starting it how many days after the last injection? 10 days? or more?
 

suppsforlife

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usually that's around 14 days, but it also depends on how you feel. the point is to start the PCT when there are no steroids in your system, otherwise PCT won't help.
when you start feeling low, add Clomid and Nolva
 

Palten03

Member
I finished my first cycle and also finished the 4 week PCT.
Now I can't wait to start the second cycle; in this regard, I should wait at least 13/14 weeks, right? 🙁
And what blood tests do you recommend doing and when?
 

suppsforlife

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Now I can't wait to start the second cycle; in this regard, I should wait at least 13/14 weeks, right? 🙁
well, its best to wait at least the amount of time you've been on the cycle. it includes the PCT and bridge time too. I mean, if your previous cycle was 12 weeks, and you waited 2 weeks before starting the PCT, then PCT 4 weeks (6 total weeks off) then you need to wait 6 more weeks. If you're impatient, wait at least 2 more weeks (total 8 weeks off).
as for blood tests there's a lot to check:
  • Complete blood count (including differential and platelets) like RBC, Hemoglobin, Hematocrit etc.
  • Comprehensive Metabolic Profile
  • Lipid Panel (total cholesterol, triglycerides, HDL, LDL)
  • Insulin Like Growth Factor
  • Liver enzymes
  • Protein and Calcium
  • Kidney and Liver functions
  • PSA
  • Testosterone, Free, and Total
  • Thyroid Profile (like T3, T4 TSH)
  • Estradiol
  • FSH
  • LH
 

Palten03

Member
my first cycle was 10 weeks, then 2 weeks off and 4 weeks on PCT. So do you recommend that I wait at least the weeks corresponding to the break and the PCT, so at least 6 weeks?
Indicatively I could wait, at this point, until the end of August and start again, right? So 2 full months would pass
 

Palten03

Member
as for blood tests there's a lot to check:
  • Complete blood count (including differential and platelets) like RBC, Hemoglobin, Hematocrit etc.
  • Comprehensive Metabolic Profile
  • Lipid Panel (total cholesterol, triglycerides, HDL, LDL)
  • Insulin Like Growth Factor
  • Liver enzymes
  • Protein and Calcium
  • Kidney and Liver functions
  • PSA
  • Testosterone, Free, and Total
  • Thyroid Profile (like T3, T4 TSH)
  • Estradiol
  • FSH
  • LH
When do you recommend I do them? Now that I finished PCT (just today) how long should I wait to do these checks?
 

HGH.to

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my first cycle was 10 weeks, then 2 weeks off and 4 weeks on PCT.
then wait 4 more weeks.
2 weeks off + 4 weeks on PCT + 4 more weeks = 10 weeks (cycle length).
When do you recommend I do them? Now that I finished PCT (just today) how long should I wait to do these checks?
if you just finished PCT, you may have the bloodwork. or at any other point before starting the cycle.
 

Palten03

Member
So, as I thought, I'll wait 10 weeks and it's better for me to start again directly in September and spend the summer training without taking anything.
and in the meantime I will arrange to book the complete blood tests
 

Palten03

Member
I don't want to risk it, I haven't had any problems during my cycle and if I have to wait two months or so it's not a problem.
Maybe for the second cycle is testosterone still ok in addition to some other compound?
 

HGH.to

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testosterone is still likely to be enough to bring awesome results.
but yes, you can add other compound to it since you know what you expect from test alone
 

Palten03

Member
It gave me good results, both physically and mentally (test cyp and dianabol).
This time I would like to combine the test with another compound that helps me bulk up and perhaps also acts on fat mass.
I'm open to suggestions 😁
 

HGH.to

Well-known member
Every steroid theoretically burns fat. you just need to eat correctly (macro balance) to burn fat. It could be winstrol if you want an oral. it also could be EQ or Deca if you want an injectable, but both are mostly to bulk up, rather than burn fat.
 
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