Trt, and my next cycle.

[HGH.to]

See I just learned something, I had no idea halo was so bad. I've only ever heard how great it is for strength gainz

its' really bad actually. its great for strength, among the best, but it will tax your liver a lot, will negatively affect cholesterol a lot and has perhaps the worst androgenic issues like aggression, hair loss etc.

 

[PedritoHID]

Ok... let's get my cycle log back on track.

Last Wednesday was the first day of my new cycle.
I'm Doing 400mg test, 200mg tren, 200mg mast and 200mg deca.
I just did my second pin a few hours ago. I'll be pining on Sundays and wednesdays... Sunday just work better for me than Monday's. (My Monday's are usually pretty hectic)
I took new pictures... but honestly nothing has changed according to my camera. But because I've been on trt for a few weeks now, my girl has pointed out my chest and arms look noticeably bigger. (God I love that girl)
I just had a awesome workout today. It was my day off with nothing else to do. I lifted for like 3hrs in my bedroom. Nice and slow pace, did back chest and traps. Lifted some weights, watched some YouTube, took 2 snack breaks. I really love getting laid off for the winter.

I'm usually a fast paced kinda exercise guy. Super sets and drop sets, very little rest between reps. Mostly because I only get a hour to do what I need.
So today was very different, highly enjoyable. But I think I overdid it . I went to absolute failure for all 3 body parts.

Anyway... not much of a update, not until I feel this tren and mast kick in, or I see some noticeable changes in my physical appearance.

I should mention I have extra tren and mass. I have thought about going 300mg on each... but I don't want to get ahead of myself.
It's my first tren cycle and I'm desperately trying to be as safe as possible.
I Also have some dbol as well... but I'm gonna leave that alone. I should probably move it away from my deodorant... I don't do well with temptation .
Out of sight out of mind.

Hopefully in 2 weeks time when I post here again I'll have some "breaking news"
And I'll post pictures no matter the outcome.

Yeah keep us posted about tren, following this

 

[bobby ricky]

halo is indeed worse than tren. nobody talks so much about it because its far not as popular. and that's for reasons.

What would be the lowest effective dose someone could take? I’ve herd not to mix deca and tren, is there any truth to that? I’m on 300 test and 300 deca with no issues at all. Could I take 200 mgs per week of tren and it be effective?

 

[Gainz.]

What would be the lowest effective dose someone could take? I’ve herd not to mix deca and tren, is there any truth to that? I’m on 300 test and 300 deca with no issues at all. Could I take 200 mgs per week of tren and it be effective?

I hope not... I'm on deca and tren... and mast right now!
And the majority of mixes I see are mixed with tren and deca

 

[unclem]

On tren right now also. I have started waking up a lot throughout the night and having sweat soaked sheets. A bit of a pain in the ass, but know it’s legit and the payoff is worth it!!!!!

i hear ya on the sheets soaked.

 

[bobby ricky]

I hope not... I'm on deca and tren... and mast right now!
And the majority of mixes I see are mixed with tren and deca

It’s just something I herd it’s probably nothing. I’m on 300 test and deca and no deca dick so was thinking about adding a little tren. Don’t they have a longer ester. Just like shooting once a week.

 

[Gainz.]

It’s just something I herd it’s probably nothing. I’m on 300 test and deca and no deca dick so was thinking about adding a little tren. Don’t they have a longer ester. Just like shooting once a week.

They have tren e, I'm assuming it's the same acting ester as test e.
That's what I'm running now. And mast e, so again 11-14 days esters
I really recommend running test and mast together.
Every single thing I read about or person I heard from said to stack them.
The mast really combats the dirty sides of tren. The paranoia, mood swings. it turns those nasty sides into hyper sexual behavior. apparently just makes you a animal. I'd much rather be uncontrollably horny.... than paranoid my girl is cheating.
I'm Only 5 or 6 days in, so another 10-15 and I should start to feel them.

 

[unclem]

i get paranoid on tren, dont act on it though, i know mind control.

 

[Gainz.]

i get paranoid on tren, dont act on it though, i know mind control.

That's the shit that terrifies me

 

[kingswe3are]

I do-
100mg eod test p
150mg eod tren a
200mg eod mast p
I run this for 8 weeks then cut out tren and do just the test p & mast p for another 2-3 weeks. Running the mast p for an additional 2-3 weeks seems to help me come of the tren better. As for mood & mindset tren makes me a love bug my wife says. I always let her know before I cycle it because it makes my sex drive explode more so than any other gear. Definitely changes my attitude also, but not into an asshole. Just a very determined high strung nice guy!!!

 

[HGH.to]

What would be the lowest effective dose someone could take? I’ve herd not to mix deca and tren, is there any truth to that? I’m on 300 test and 300 deca with no issues at all. Could I take 200 mgs per week of tren and it be effective?

you can actually add some Tren with Deca, especially considering your level of experience. People generally say not to mixed Tren with Deca because they both increase prolactin. Others think there's no point in stacking them since they are both 19-nors steroid. but this last statement has no point considering that Dbol and Test are both testosterone, basically, but they work wonders together. as for prolactin spike- just keep an eye on it.
and yeah, those 200 mg/week of tren can be effective. just as stated by many others here, watch out for its side effects.

 

[bobby ricky]

I do-
100mg eod test p
150mg eod tren a
200mg eod mast p
I run this for 8 weeks then cut out tren and do just the test p & mast p for another 2-3 weeks. Running the mast p for an additional 2-3 weeks seems to help me come of the tren better. As for mood & mindset tren makes me a love bug my wife says. I always let her know before I cycle it because it makes my sex drive explode more so than any other gear. Definitely changes my attitude also, but not into an asshole. Just a very determined high strung nice guy!!!

When you came off tren dose it fuck up your sex drive?

 

[bobby ricky]

That's the shit that terrifies me

I’m worried about sleeping and fucking up my sex drive. I know you don’t want to fuck yours up. You are the luckiest guy I know. I’m such a fucking sexual animal that I started hinting about bringing a girl around and it didn’t go well for me . I’ve been eating Frosted Flakes for 28 years and it would be fun to add some coco pebbles in the bowl . No such luck .

 

[kingswe3are]

Doesn’t me really physically if that makes sense. It’s does effect my mindset a little like being overly loving and sweet so I have been told, but not wanting to have sex and being able to perform.

 

[Gainz.]

I’m worried about sleeping and fucking up my sex drive. I know you don’t want to fuck yours up. You are the luckiest guy I know. I’m such a fucking sexual animal that I started hinting about bringing a girl around and it didn’t go well for me . I’ve been eating Frosted Flakes for 28 years and it would be fun to add some coco pebbles in the bowl . No such luck .

Hahaha, I am pretty lucky. I don't like to talk about it too much because I find people don't believe me.
My girl was married for 13 years. Then only dated girls for 2-3 girls when I met her. She really.... developed a taste for women. So every once in a while (3-4 months) she has a hankering that I get to help her fulfill. Now do I also reap the benefits of this... you bet your perfectly toned ass I do!

 

[Gainz.]

I’m worried about sleeping and fucking up my sex drive. I know you don’t want to fuck yours up. You are the luckiest guy I know. I’m such a fucking sexual animal that I started hinting about bringing a girl around and it didn’t go well for me . I’ve been eating Frosted Flakes for 28 years and it would be fun to add some coco pebbles in the bowl . No such luck .

The coco pebbles part had me fucking rolling!
I finally understand what gets @bobby ricky going!
He's like a younger more jacked Robert De Niro

 

[Gainz.]

Ok, small update on my first experience with tren (and mast)
I've said it before, but trying to keep everything in 1 place.
I've struggled with acne my whole life. Not crazy amounts, just a annoying... always 1-4 zits on my face. I'm 34 and its never changed.
Well I'm 11 days into this tren cycle and my face has never been more clear. About 4 days ago I noticed I wasn't getting any new zits on my face or back. Today, still nothing new and the ones I had are almost completely gone.
Sooo... literally no fucking clue why tren has seemed to fix my acne... but I'll take it. I'm just worried it's the calm before the storm .

The other update, 3 days ago I noticed a big jump in libido. I didn't think too much about it, figured it was a placebo effect. Ya know, wanting to feel it.
The next day a bigger jump, then today... holy shit!
So its definitely not a placebo effect.
People weren't kidding about how tren and mast sends your sex drive into hyperdrive!

 

[Rhino73]

Ok, small update on my first experience with tren (and mast)
I've said it before, but trying to keep everything in 1 place.
I've struggled with acne my whole life. Not crazy amounts, just a annoying... always 1-4 zits on my face. I'm 34 and its never changed.
Well I'm 11 days into this tren cycle and my face has never been more clear. About 4 days ago I noticed I wasn't getting any new zits on my face or back. Today, still nothing new and the ones I had are almost completely gone.
Sooo... literally no fucking clue why tren has seemed to fix my acne... but I'll take it. I'm just worried it's the calm before the storm .

The other update, 3 days ago I noticed a big jump in libido. I didn't think too much about it, figured it was a placebo effect. Ya know, wanting to feel it.
The next day a bigger jump, then today... holy shit!
So its definitely not a placebo effect.
People weren't kidding about how tren and mast sends your sex drive into hyperdrive!

Is this week 3?
Any noticeable strength gains?

 

[Gainz.]

Is this week 3?
Any noticeable strength gains?

This is my 12th day. Actually... yeah. I noticed I had to add a few extra reps to almost every lift over the past few days to get that burn were all looking for

 

[bobby ricky]

Ok, so I'm in the beginning of the 4th week of my trt. Just took my 7th injection.
I'm fairly certain my gear is good. Went with a new brand because of a crazy sale I couldn't pass up.
But I'm hungry all the time, definitely feel a increase in libido, some acne on my shoulders and back, plus a decent pump in my workouts. So all seems good as far as the gamble that comes with buying gear from across the world. I'm only on 125mg of test c (of course split up into 2 doses) in 4 weeks I will get laid off for 10-14 weeks.
Once that starts I will be doing 300mg of test c, 200mg of deca and 200mg of tren.
(Will to go to 425-450mg of test if needed to combat any deca dick)

Its super early in the trt...(and a pretty low dose) but like I said the only real difference I feel is the hunger and pumps. But I'm feeling great, my anxiety is already starting to die down. Not getting the racing thoughts like I usually do.
I'm super excited about the hunger, as some of the older members might remember eating was my biggest problem. I definitely struggled to eat more than 2,000 calories before. I was definitely more comfortable being in a deficit (1,500 cals) but over the past 8 days I'm eating like a crazy person. If I don't eat every 2hrs I get lightheaded.

So my stats at the moment= 34 years old, 6ft tall, and 178lbs (I lost some weight after my last cycle, around 6lbs if memory is correct) but I don't think I look any different.

While this cycle will be a "bulking" cycle, I'm not gonna stress about my weight gain like I have in the past. I've noticed that I develop a unhealthy relationship with the scale. If I notice I lost a lb or 2 I would get down on myself and literally feel weaker. Then the next day or 2 I overeat to the point of nausea and then my exercise routines suffer. So I'll stick to my diet as well as I can and use pictures and the mirror to track my progress.

I will be blasting and cruising, no more rollercoaster pct for me.
I plan on doing 10 weeks of what's listed above, then 12-14 weeks of 125mg of test c.
Since I will be laid off in the middle of winter in a state that gets snow, I should have all the downtime to focus on my goals. Eat, sleep and lift heavy shit!

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone here that I've learned from. In fact ive learned so much since ive joined people turn to me for advice... crazy! Never thought my inbox would be flooded with questions.
I definitely owe a lot of my success to this forum and a select group of guys
.... you know who you are!

But anyway this is where I'm starting, just took these pics today, before my workout. So no pump. I'll try to post every 2 weeks like last time and update as much as possible.

Tren update please