FIrst Cycle, Checklist and shopping List

[HGH.to]

is it recommended to use t along with HCG ? im taking 250 mg of testosterone enanthate a week, is it too much?
Also, isn't nolvadex and clomid recommended for post cycle? are we supposed to use it during too?

if you'll carefully read the first post here you'll get your answers

 

[HGH Daddy]

As hCG, there is choriomon on the market, I can recommend it. use pharmacy products.

 

[Amarcuik401]

<p>Welcome to MG.</p>
<p>I guess you are here looking for information on steroids, where to buy them, and how to use them. Well you have come to the right place!</p>
<p>The first thing you need to know is there are many compounds which are collectively known as ‘steroids’. They are all different, with different strengths and side effects. With time you will learn about these and it is very important that you do your homework. One of the most asked questions on MG is: what should be my first cycle? and where can I source products?</p>
<p>Let me try to answer this but first I have some questions for you:</p>
<p>1. Are you over 21 (ideally over 25)?</p>
<p>2. Are you trying to add muscle (bulking)?</p>
<p>3. Are you in good health (heart, liver or kidneys issues are a big No!)?</p>
<p>4. Have you been seriously training for some time?</p>
<p>5. Is your training diet good?</p>
<p>[The reason for the questions – (1) you do not want to endanger your health (2) Steroids are only 1 factor, they are NOT a magic bullet, if your diet and training is not good then they will have little or no benefit.]</p>
<p>Answered “Yes” to all of the above, good then we can continue!</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Cycle 1: </span></p>
<p>Testosterone Cypionate (TestC) or Enanthate (TestE), 500mg per week for 12 weeks.</p>
<p>This is your steroid. It is a synthetic form of the testosterone your body makes naturally. In men natural test peaks in you early 20’s then falls away (hence why taking steroids younger than 25 is not a great idea as you own test levels are at their peak).</p>
<p>Arimidex (AKA “Adex”) –0.5mg every other day (EOD). OR Aromasin (AKA “aro”) – 12.5mg EOD.</p>
<p>Your body naturally converts some of your test to estrogen. Which is good – you need some estrogen but with elevated test your estrogen levels can rise too, which is bad! Too much estrogen can lead to ‘gyno’ – reduced sex drive, lethargy, bloating and in extreme case ‘bitch tits’! An AI (Aromatase Inhibitor) will prevent this conversion. BUT be careful this is one area which is varies wildly between individuals. Some are prone to gyno so need an AI, some people are almost immune so need very little (if any). You will need to adjust the level depending on how your body reacts.</p>
<p>Clomid & Tamoxifen (AKA Nova).</p>
<p>This is your Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) its job is to restart your natural testosterone production once the synthetic test has left your system. You will therefore begin 2 weeks after your last injection of testosterone.</p>
<p>Your PCT will last 4 weeks:</p>
<p>Dosages: Clomid: First 2 weeks 100mg/day, next 2 weeks 50mg/day.</p>
<p>Tamoxifen: First 2 weeks 40mg/day, next 2 weeks 20mg/day</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">In summary, you will need: </span></p>
<p>TestC (or TestE), total of 6,000mg,</p>
<p>Arimidex, total of 21mg, (OR Aromasin, total 525mg)</p>
<p>Clomid, total of 2,100mg,</p>
<p>& Tamoxifen, total of 840mg.</p>
<p>In addition to the compounds above you will need syringes (24, I recommend 2ml), needles (24 for injecting and, if using vials, it is recommended to use a separate needle to draw, so 48 in total. Gauge and length will vary by injection site but generally speaking 1” 23g is good for quads with 1.25” for glutes.) Alco wipes for cleaning the site and vial tops.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">OK – So what can I expect to happen?</span></p>
<p>This is the million dollar question! And again it will vary between individuals based on training, age, genetics, diet and more. Generally speaking - not a lot for the first few weeks. Don't be disheartened, or think you have bought junk, it's normal. The TestC will be building up in your blood as your production of natural test slows. As the concentration of synthetic test exceeds your natural level you will begin to feel (and see) the benefits.</p>
<p>If you don’t already, keep a training log, you should see your old PB’s being surpassed. Depending on your diet you’ll either become more cut, better definition, or increased muscle mass (you may be extremely fortunate and achieve the holy grail of adding muscle and cutting bf, but generally ‘bulking’ and ‘cutting’ are separate cycles). Please DON’T come into this with unrealistic expectations – you only risk disappointment and demotivation. Better to think of your first cycle as a learning experience the gains you make are a bonus. Provided your diet and training are good (sorry but I cannot emphasis this enough!) you will make gains - I promise.</p>
<p>There is a lot to learn on cycle1. The most important thing is how your body reacts. Learn to listen to it. Keep a watch on your sex drive it is a great indicator of what’s happening with your hormones -often before any other signs are evident.</p>
<p>Once your cycle is finished allow your body and in particular your natural test production time to recover before considering cycle 2. As a rule of thumb ‘off-time’ should equal ‘cycle time’ so take a break of at least 12 weeks.</p>
<p>This is the standard, tried and tested, first cycle. Provided the gear is good, and it is administered correctly, it is safe for the virtually everyone. As with regular pharmaceutical products, there are rare occasions people who react badly to compounds. If you experience an adverse reaction please discontinue use immediately and, if serious, seek medical help. This is unlikely but not worth endangering your health for.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Sources:</span></p>
<p>So you’ve done your homework and want to proceed. Check out the “sources” tab on MG. Here you will find reviews by members of sites and products. There are plenty of scammers on the internet who will either disappear with your cash or send junk gear. The best protection we have against this is for users to share information about who the good guys are, and who to avoid. The top sources are top sources for a reason – plenty of us use them without being scammed. There are no guarantees, no credit card or statutory protection but as a community we watch each others backs and can greatly reduce these risks.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Finally:</span></p>
<p>Don’t take my word for it, do your own homework, there is a ton of great information on this site, be safe and good luck! This article is a summation of information available on this site and others. It is intended for information only. If you chose to use steroids you do so entirely at your own risk.</p>
<p>And finally a thank you to Dolf for proofing this for me before submission, cheers bro!.</p>

Ok thank you very much I’m 35 about 3 years ago I was fat and out of shape 240 lbs. I started in the gym and haven’t stopped I’m now 178 lbs but am still not as cut and feel as though I’ve peeked hence the reason I’m here. I’ve done a lot of homework and feel like propionate is for me I just need a good source

 

[HGH.to]

I’ve done a lot of homework and feel like propionate is for me I just need a good source

are you sure you want to inject it every day? or at least every other day? I would recommend Enanthate or Cypionate, You can inject them only 2 times a week.

 

[Amarcuik401]

are you sure you want to inject it every day? or at least every other day? I would recommend Enanthate or Cypionate, You can inject them only 2 times a week.

Thank you I meant cypionate, so how many bottles do I need for a good first cycle

 

[HGH.to]

Thank you I meant cypionate, so how many bottles do I need for a good first cycle

As I stated in my other post, depends on a number of factors. But for a beginner, usually, 1-2 bottles are enough

 

[EMachine]

500 mg is not a beginner’s cycle! I have said it before and will say it again…not a beginner’s cycle! Where do you go from here - 750-1,000 mg?

300 mg is more than enough for a beginner. I see this all the time! Some of us who competed and who have clients in here, wished these posts weren’t written!
Also, no rala for a first cycle if you want to do it right. There is time for that. Feel what it feels like to be on testosterone and then on your second cycle add an oral like anavar (mild oral). Now you know what testosterone feels like (because you took it by itself to start with) and will appreciate what anavar can do in combination with it.

After more than 20 years in this game, I feel that I need to respond to these kind of posts to clarify posts like this. I do, however, appreciate you taking the time to write it. 300 mg of testosterone will provide you with more than enough ammunition to feel great and make solid gains.

 

[Amarcuik401]

500 mg is not a beginner’s cycle! I have said it before and will say it again…not a beginner’s cycle! Where do you go from here - 750-1,000 mg?

300 mg is more than enough for a beginner. I see this all the time! Some of us who competed and who have clients in here, wished these posts weren’t written!
Also, no rala for a first cycle if you want to do it right. There is time for that. Feel what it feels like to be on testosterone and then on your second cycle add an oral like anavar (mild oral). Now you know what testosterone feels like (because you took it by itself to start with) and will appreciate what anavar can do in combination with it.

After more than 20 years in this game, I feel that I need to respond to these kind of posts to clarify posts like this. I do, however, appreciate you taking the time to write it. 300 mg of testosterone will provide you with more than enough ammunition to feel great and make solid gains.

Ok I like what you said you seem knowledgeable can u help guide me?

 

[Amarcuik401]

Ok I like what you said you seem knowledgeable can u help guide me?

My email is amarcuik401@gmail please feel free to use it

 

[EMachine]

My email is amarcuik401@gmail please feel free to use it

Hi Amarcuik,
Welcome to the dance brother!

I’m currently not taking anymore clients. However, if you have a question, I’ll be happy to help you.

 

[Amarcuik401]

<p>Welcome to MG.</p>
<p>I guess you are here looking for information on steroids, where to buy them, and how to use them. Well you have come to the right place!</p>
<p>The first thing you need to know is there are many compounds which are collectively known as ‘steroids’. They are all different, with different strengths and side effects. With time you will learn about these and it is very important that you do your homework. One of the most asked questions on MG is: what should be my first cycle? and where can I source products?</p>
<p>Let me try to answer this but first I have some questions for you:</p>
<p>1. Are you over 21 (ideally over 25)?</p>
<p>2. Are you trying to add muscle (bulking)?</p>
<p>3. Are you in good health (heart, liver or kidneys issues are a big No!)?</p>
<p>4. Have you been seriously training for some time?</p>
<p>5. Is your training diet good?</p>
<p>[The reason for the questions – (1) you do not want to endanger your health (2) Steroids are only 1 factor, they are NOT a magic bullet, if your diet and training is not good then they will have little or no benefit.]</p>
<p>Answered “Yes” to all of the above, good then we can continue!</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Cycle 1: </span></p>
<p>Testosterone Cypionate (TestC) or Enanthate (TestE), 500mg per week for 12 weeks.</p>
<p>This is your steroid. It is a synthetic form of the testosterone your body makes naturally. In men natural test peaks in you early 20’s then falls away (hence why taking steroids younger than 25 is not a great idea as you own test levels are at their peak).</p>
<p>Arimidex (AKA “Adex”) –0.5mg every other day (EOD). OR Aromasin (AKA “aro”) – 12.5mg EOD.</p>
<p>Your body naturally converts some of your test to estrogen. Which is good – you need some estrogen but with elevated test your estrogen levels can rise too, which is bad! Too much estrogen can lead to ‘gyno’ – reduced sex drive, lethargy, bloating and in extreme case ‘bitch tits’! An AI (Aromatase Inhibitor) will prevent this conversion. BUT be careful this is one area which is varies wildly between individuals. Some are prone to gyno so need an AI, some people are almost immune so need very little (if any). You will need to adjust the level depending on how your body reacts.</p>
<p>Clomid & Tamoxifen (AKA Nova).</p>
<p>This is your Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) its job is to restart your natural testosterone production once the synthetic test has left your system. You will therefore begin 2 weeks after your last injection of testosterone.</p>
<p>Your PCT will last 4 weeks:</p>
<p>Dosages: Clomid: First 2 weeks 100mg/day, next 2 weeks 50mg/day.</p>
<p>Tamoxifen: First 2 weeks 40mg/day, next 2 weeks 20mg/day</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">In summary, you will need: </span></p>
<p>TestC (or TestE), total of 6,000mg,</p>
<p>Arimidex, total of 21mg, (OR Aromasin, total 525mg)</p>
<p>Clomid, total of 2,100mg,</p>
<p>& Tamoxifen, total of 840mg.</p>
<p>In addition to the compounds above you will need syringes (24, I recommend 2ml), needles (24 for injecting and, if using vials, it is recommended to use a separate needle to draw, so 48 in total. Gauge and length will vary by injection site but generally speaking 1” 23g is good for quads with 1.25” for glutes.) Alco wipes for cleaning the site and vial tops.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">OK – So what can I expect to happen?</span></p>
<p>This is the million dollar question! And again it will vary between individuals based on training, age, genetics, diet and more. Generally speaking - not a lot for the first few weeks. Don't be disheartened, or think you have bought junk, it's normal. The TestC will be building up in your blood as your production of natural test slows. As the concentration of synthetic test exceeds your natural level you will begin to feel (and see) the benefits.</p>
<p>If you don’t already, keep a training log, you should see your old PB’s being surpassed. Depending on your diet you’ll either become more cut, better definition, or increased muscle mass (you may be extremely fortunate and achieve the holy grail of adding muscle and cutting bf, but generally ‘bulking’ and ‘cutting’ are separate cycles). Please DON’T come into this with unrealistic expectations – you only risk disappointment and demotivation. Better to think of your first cycle as a learning experience the gains you make are a bonus. Provided your diet and training are good (sorry but I cannot emphasis this enough!) you will make gains - I promise.</p>
<p>There is a lot to learn on cycle1. The most important thing is how your body reacts. Learn to listen to it. Keep a watch on your sex drive it is a great indicator of what’s happening with your hormones -often before any other signs are evident.</p>
<p>Once your cycle is finished allow your body and in particular your natural test production time to recover before considering cycle 2. As a rule of thumb ‘off-time’ should equal ‘cycle time’ so take a break of at least 12 weeks.</p>
<p>This is the standard, tried and tested, first cycle. Provided the gear is good, and it is administered correctly, it is safe for the virtually everyone. As with regular pharmaceutical products, there are rare occasions people who react badly to compounds. If you experience an adverse reaction please discontinue use immediately and, if serious, seek medical help. This is unlikely but not worth endangering your health for.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Sources:</span></p>
<p>So you’ve done your homework and want to proceed. Check out the “sources” tab on MG. Here you will find reviews by members of sites and products. There are plenty of scammers on the internet who will either disappear with your cash or send junk gear. The best protection we have against this is for users to share information about who the good guys are, and who to avoid. The top sources are top sources for a reason – plenty of us use them without being scammed. There are no guarantees, no credit card or statutory protection but as a community we watch each others backs and can greatly reduce these risks.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Finally:</span></p>
<p>Don’t take my word for it, do your own homework, there is a ton of great information on this site, be safe and good luck! This article is a summation of information available on this site and others. It is intended for information only. If you chose to use steroids you do so entirely at your own risk.</p>
<p>And finally a thank you to Dolf for proofing this for me before submission, cheers bro!.</p>

Guys thank you. Everyone has been helpful, I feel as though I’ve joined a team and am more excited than ever, please continue to guide me and I’ll keep you posted as things progress. What is the average wait for products to be shipped? I’m very eager to start

 

[suppsforlife]

Depends on your location and the brand you choose, but, generally, a few business days. hope you're actually ready for your first cycle. good luck!

 

[HGH Daddy]

welcome on board my friend

 

[0bluesheep]

Hi, would you recommend taking half the doses of the estrogen blocker and PCT if you only take 250mg/week of Test E? Thanks

 

[HGH.to]

would you recommend taking half the doses of the estrogen blocker

in the original post, you can see the recommendation is 0.5 mg of Arimidex EOD. But I wouldn't recommend that. You need to use Estrogen blockers only when you actually need them (high estrogen levels/ symptoms). Some people need 0.5 mg of Arimidex EOD on 250 mg/week of Test E. Others don't need to use any estrogen blockers at all while on 500 mg/week of Test E. As you can see - the difference is huge. you need to find your own perfect dosage.
as in terms of PCT - similar to what I mentioned above. Find your perfect spot.
Again, in the original post you can see Clomid and Nolvadex at dosage of 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 per week, respectively. I personally think that's too high dosage of Clomid. You'll need 50/50/25/25. Based on this and based on the fact you use 250 mg/week, you may try lowering the doses in half and see how it feels. Again, you need to find your own sweet spot.
You could try Clomid and Nolvadex such as: 50/25/25 and 40/20/20. May opt out for the fourth week or continue with the same dosages or run them in half - again, depending on what you need, how you feel etc.

 

[0bluesheep]

That was extremely helpful. Thank you.

 

[EMachine]

in the original post, you can see the recommendation is 0.5 mg of Arimidex EOD. But I wouldn't recommend that. You need to use Estrogen blockers only when you actually need them (high estrogen levels/ symptoms). Some people need 0.5 mg of Arimidex EOD on 250 mg/week of Test E. Others don't need to use any estrogen blockers at all while on 500 mg/week of Test E. As you can see - the difference is huge. you need to find your own perfect dosage.
as in terms of PCT - similar to what I mentioned above. Find your perfect spot.
Again, in the original post you can see Clomid and Nolvadex at dosage of 100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20 per week, respectively. I personally think that's too high dosage of Clomid. You'll need 50/50/25/25. Based on this and based on the fact you use 250 mg/week, you may try lowering the doses in half and see how it feels. Again, you need to find your own sweet spot.
You could try Clomid and Nolvadex such as: 50/25/25 and 40/20/20. May opt out for the fourth week or continue with the same dosages or run them in half - again, depending on what you need, how you feel etc.

That's well put together HGH. Clomid will at 100 mg make you, after a week or so, feel very sensitive and will mess with your emotions and mental state, as if you were a female and on the 28th day of the month. Great advice!

 

[mclovin8484]

<p>Welcome to MG.</p>
<p>I guess you are here looking for information on steroids, where to buy them, and how to use them. Well you have come to the right place!</p>
<p>The first thing you need to know is there are many compounds which are collectively known as ‘steroids’. They are all different, with different strengths and side effects. With time you will learn about these and it is very important that you do your homework. One of the most asked questions on MG is: what should be my first cycle? and where can I source products?</p>
<p>Let me try to answer this but first I have some questions for you:</p>
<p>1. Are you over 21 (ideally over 25)?</p>
<p>2. Are you trying to add muscle (bulking)?</p>
<p>3. Are you in good health (heart, liver or kidneys issues are a big No!)?</p>
<p>4. Have you been seriously training for some time?</p>
<p>5. Is your training diet good?</p>
<p>[The reason for the questions – (1) you do not want to endanger your health (2) Steroids are only 1 factor, they are NOT a magic bullet, if your diet and training is not good then they will have little or no benefit.]</p>
<p>Answered “Yes” to all of the above, good then we can continue!</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Cycle 1: </span></p>
<p>Testosterone Cypionate (TestC) or Enanthate (TestE), 500mg per week for 12 weeks.</p>
<p>This is your steroid. It is a synthetic form of the testosterone your body makes naturally. In men natural test peaks in you early 20’s then falls away (hence why taking steroids younger than 25 is not a great idea as you own test levels are at their peak).</p>
<p>Arimidex (AKA “Adex”) –0.5mg every other day (EOD). OR Aromasin (AKA “aro”) – 12.5mg EOD.</p>
<p>Your body naturally converts some of your test to estrogen. Which is good – you need some estrogen but with elevated test your estrogen levels can rise too, which is bad! Too much estrogen can lead to ‘gyno’ – reduced sex drive, lethargy, bloating and in extreme case ‘bitch tits’! An AI (Aromatase Inhibitor) will prevent this conversion. BUT be careful this is one area which is varies wildly between individuals. Some are prone to gyno so need an AI, some people are almost immune so need very little (if any). You will need to adjust the level depending on how your body reacts.</p>
<p>Clomid & Tamoxifen (AKA Nova).</p>
<p>This is your Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) its job is to restart your natural testosterone production once the synthetic test has left your system. You will therefore begin 2 weeks after your last injection of testosterone.</p>
<p>Your PCT will last 4 weeks:</p>
<p>Dosages: Clomid: First 2 weeks 100mg/day, next 2 weeks 50mg/day.</p>
<p>Tamoxifen: First 2 weeks 40mg/day, next 2 weeks 20mg/day</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">In summary, you will need: </span></p>
<p>TestC (or TestE), total of 6,000mg,</p>
<p>Arimidex, total of 21mg, (OR Aromasin, total 525mg)</p>
<p>Clomid, total of 2,100mg,</p>
<p>& Tamoxifen, total of 840mg.</p>
<p>In addition to the compounds above you will need syringes (24, I recommend 2ml), needles (24 for injecting and, if using vials, it is recommended to use a separate needle to draw, so 48 in total. Gauge and length will vary by injection site but generally speaking 1” 23g is good for quads with 1.25” for glutes.) Alco wipes for cleaning the site and vial tops.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">OK – So what can I expect to happen?</span></p>
<p>This is the million dollar question! And again it will vary between individuals based on training, age, genetics, diet and more. Generally speaking - not a lot for the first few weeks. Don't be disheartened, or think you have bought junk, it's normal. The TestC will be building up in your blood as your production of natural test slows. As the concentration of synthetic test exceeds your natural level you will begin to feel (and see) the benefits.</p>
<p>If you don’t already, keep a training log, you should see your old PB’s being surpassed. Depending on your diet you’ll either become more cut, better definition, or increased muscle mass (you may be extremely fortunate and achieve the holy grail of adding muscle and cutting bf, but generally ‘bulking’ and ‘cutting’ are separate cycles). Please DON’T come into this with unrealistic expectations – you only risk disappointment and demotivation. Better to think of your first cycle as a learning experience the gains you make are a bonus. Provided your diet and training are good (sorry but I cannot emphasis this enough!) you will make gains - I promise.</p>
<p>There is a lot to learn on cycle1. The most important thing is how your body reacts. Learn to listen to it. Keep a watch on your sex drive it is a great indicator of what’s happening with your hormones -often before any other signs are evident.</p>
<p>Once your cycle is finished allow your body and in particular your natural test production time to recover before considering cycle 2. As a rule of thumb ‘off-time’ should equal ‘cycle time’ so take a break of at least 12 weeks.</p>
<p>This is the standard, tried and tested, first cycle. Provided the gear is good, and it is administered correctly, it is safe for the virtually everyone. As with regular pharmaceutical products, there are rare occasions people who react badly to compounds. If you experience an adverse reaction please discontinue use immediately and, if serious, seek medical help. This is unlikely but not worth endangering your health for.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Sources:</span></p>
<p>So you’ve done your homework and want to proceed. Check out the “sources” tab on MG. Here you will find reviews by members of sites and products. There are plenty of scammers on the internet who will either disappear with your cash or send junk gear. The best protection we have against this is for users to share information about who the good guys are, and who to avoid. The top sources are top sources for a reason – plenty of us use them without being scammed. There are no guarantees, no credit card or statutory protection but as a community we watch each others backs and can greatly reduce these risks.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Finally:</span></p>
<p>Don’t take my word for it, do your own homework, there is a ton of great information on this site, be safe and good luck! This article is a summation of information available on this site and others. It is intended for information only. If you chose to use steroids you do so entirely at your own risk.</p>
<p>And finally a thank you to Dolf for proofing this for me before submission, cheers bro!.</p>

Hello All, I just received my first bulking cycle today which includes the following: 2x GP Methan (Dianabol) 2X 10 ML vials GP Testerone Cypionate 250 (injectable) 2x GP Anastrozole I wanted to know how much to take and when to take. I am not trying to be strongest man. I am a diabetic and no other underlying health issues and 38 years old wehing 180 lbs. Looking to build muscle and physique. Should I just stick with dianabol first and try cypionate later? The following items have still not here yet 1xUltima-HGH Fragment 1x Clebuterol Should I wait for the HGH and Clenbuterol to come in and also waiting on climid and nova? This is my first time trying steroids. Thanks in advance

 

[suppsforlife]

You need to have on hand: testosterone cypionate, anastrozole, nolvadex and/or clomid. you don't need the rest, or at least I don't recommend them to your first steroid cycle.
start with Test Cypionate alone. 2 injections a week. Monday and Thursday. use 0.6 ml Mon and 0.6 ml Thu and you'll get a total of 300 mg/week. Run this cycle for 10-12 weeks. During the cycle add anastrozole if you notice high estrogen symptoms or can confirm it (better) with blood work. after the cycle you're going to use nolvadex and/or clomid for PCT plan. in the meantime - start leaning about steroids.
hope you're working out and dieting otherwise it's meaningless. keep all the rest stuff for further cycles and when you'll have more knowledge about steroids.

 

[ozraelised]

Want to say thank you.